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CGI-Quality said:
nightsurge said:
disolitude said:
gekkokamen said:
Well, I'd personally like to see Darksiders do well. It seems like the beginning of a great franchise.


I dont know...darksiders already seems been there done that franchise to me.

Bayoentta on the other hand...I hope they don't make another one. Unless they can bring as many new ideas to the table, let it sit as a underrated classic that it is.

Lol, Darksiders is a "been there done that" game and Bayonetta isn't?  What about all the DMC4/Bayonetta comparisons....  Seems they are both "been there done that" and what game isn't these days? 

HEAVY RAIN

OT: If I had to choose either, it'd be Bayonetta. Sure, it's "been there, done that", but my experience with it garnered more fun than I had with Darksiders.

You just like imagining yourself as a beautiful woman with big boobs. Admit it!



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nightsurge said:
CGI-Quality said:
nightsurge said:
disolitude said:
gekkokamen said:
Well, I'd personally like to see Darksiders do well. It seems like the beginning of a great franchise.


I dont know...darksiders already seems been there done that franchise to me.

Bayoentta on the other hand...I hope they don't make another one. Unless they can bring as many new ideas to the table, let it sit as a underrated classic that it is.

Lol, Darksiders is a "been there done that" game and Bayonetta isn't?  What about all the DMC4/Bayonetta comparisons....  Seems they are both "been there done that" and what game isn't these days? 

HEAVY RAIN

OT: If I had to choose either, it'd be Bayonetta. Sure, it's "been there, done that", but my experience with it garnered more fun than I had with Darksiders.

You just like imagining yourself as a beautiful woman with big boobs. Admit it!

The game has some good fun with this.

There is a scene where bayonetta is in an airplane with 2 other people and a missle is approaching... when they see the missle the game gives you...

-zoom in close up of character 1 face "Oh no!"

-zoom in close up of character 2 face "Oh no!"

-zoom in close up of bayonettas boobs "Oh yeah!"



nightsurge said:
disolitude said:
nightsurge said:
disolitude said:
gekkokamen said:
Well, I'd personally like to see Darksiders do well. It seems like the beginning of a great franchise.


I dont know...darksiders already seems been there done that franchise to me.

Bayoentta on the other hand...I hope they don't make another one. Unless they can bring as many new ideas to the table, let it sit as a underrated classic that it is.

Lol, Darksiders is a "been there done that" game and Bayonetta isn't?  What about all the DMC4/Bayonetta comparisons....  Seems they are both "been there done that" and what game isn't these days? 

In style posybly it appears done before.

But in excecution Bayonetta is so far above anything else... Game just feels differenent from anything you'd get from Activision, Capcom or anyone else this gen.

Meh, just looks like another boring DMC clone to me.  And having a girl lead character doesn't help.  Sure she looks nice, but I just can't be absorbed into a game as the lead character when that character is a different gender than me... :/

Lol its from the guys that made the good DMC games (1 & 3), and it took all the work they did in those games and builds upon it, so its not simply a "clone" but a game in the same style with big improvements and its own identity if you've ever played a Clover game, look into the game...



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disolitude said:
nightsurge said:
CGI-Quality said:
nightsurge said:
disolitude said:
gekkokamen said:
Well, I'd personally like to see Darksiders do well. It seems like the beginning of a great franchise.


I dont know...darksiders already seems been there done that franchise to me.

Bayoentta on the other hand...I hope they don't make another one. Unless they can bring as many new ideas to the table, let it sit as a underrated classic that it is.

Lol, Darksiders is a "been there done that" game and Bayonetta isn't?  What about all the DMC4/Bayonetta comparisons....  Seems they are both "been there done that" and what game isn't these days? 

HEAVY RAIN

OT: If I had to choose either, it'd be Bayonetta. Sure, it's "been there, done that", but my experience with it garnered more fun than I had with Darksiders.

You just like imagining yourself as a beautiful woman with big boobs. Admit it!

The game has some good fun with this.

There is a scene where bayonetta is in an airplane with 2 other people and a missle is approaching... when they see the missle the game gives you...

-zoom in close up of character 1 face "Oh no!"

-zoom in close up of character 2 face "Oh no!"

-zoom in close up of bayonettas boobs "Oh yeah!"

may be they should have added this feature at the back of the game box.



disolitude said:
Porcupine_I said:
Question: Is Bayonetta really that difficult?

I do remember a Video some time ago, with a japanese girl playing Bayonetta by only pressing one button (the easiest setting of course).

No. On normal the game should be perfect for most people. I find it a bit easy and cant wait to unlock the hard difficulty...

The controls are probably most intuitive and user freindly out of any hack and slash ever made. Block is replaced by dodge which gives you temporary slow down time power up if executed in the nick of time. That makes the action so fluid and smooth... makes combat in other games of this type look very wooden.

Yep pretty much every action/hack and slash game on the PS3 uses Square/triangle for combos( GoW 1,2, NGS, NGS2, DMC4,...).

What does Bayonetta use ? Triangle/Circle. Really intuitive...

 

 

As for just in time dodge, NG had just in time block for ages, so it's not really novel gameplay..

 

And sure the bosses are cool, but the strat to beat each of them is exactly the same : activate witch time, beat on part of the boss that was trying to hit you, rinse and repeat....

 



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Ail said:
disolitude said:
Porcupine_I said:
Question: Is Bayonetta really that difficult?

I do remember a Video some time ago, with a japanese girl playing Bayonetta by only pressing one button (the easiest setting of course).

No. On normal the game should be perfect for most people. I find it a bit easy and cant wait to unlock the hard difficulty...

The controls are probably most intuitive and user freindly out of any hack and slash ever made. Block is replaced by dodge which gives you temporary slow down time power up if executed in the nick of time. That makes the action so fluid and smooth... makes combat in other games of this type look very wooden.

Yep pretty much every action/hack and slash game on the PS3 uses Square/triangle for combos( GoW 1,2, NGS, NGS2, DMC4,...).

What does Bayonetta use ? Triangle/Circle. Really intuitive...

 

 

As for just in time dodge, NG had just in time block for ages, so it's not really novel gameplay..

 

And sure the bosses are cool, but the strat to beat each of them is exactly the same : activate witch time, beat on part of the boss that was trying to hit you, rinse and repeat....

 

Nah, you're just being too critical.

I played all those games and nothing playes as smooth as Bayonetta. Ninja Gaiden possibly could if you dedicate 100 hours in to it...

Its like you are seeing things the game lacks compared to other games of the same genre, but completely ignoring the elements which it beats them on.

Yeah, its not hard and challengin as NG series, but after a long day at work its not as frustrating and actually more enjoyable.

I honestly can't think of a single thing DMC games did better than this...



Playing Darksiders now. It's a pretty horrible game. Everthing in it looks like it's been bought at the IKEA of western game design.

Drab, grey, samey graphics.
Single-button button-mashing for gameplay.
Cheap grinding missions to extend playtime. All the f***ing time.
Completely unenganging story - seriously, I still don't know why I'm doing the things I am or what my motivation is supposed to be. All I'm doing is "go find X, he can tell you how to get to Y" (told in a "suitably" gruff voice).

Bayonetta, at least, is colourful and fun.



ctalkeb said:
Playing Darksiders now. It's a pretty horrible game. Everthing in it looks like it's been bought at the IKEA of western game design.

Drab, grey, samey graphics.
Single-button button-mashing for gameplay.
Cheap grinding missions to extend playtime. All the f***ing time.
Completely unenganging story - seriously, I still don't know why I'm doing the things I am or what my motivation is supposed to be. All I'm doing is "go find X, he can tell you how to get to Y" (told in a "suitably" gruff voice).

Bayonetta, at least, is colourful and fun.

Sounds to me like you haven't played the game.  Darksiders is plenty colorful.  There are no "missions".  There is just the main story, and the open world to explore and treasure hunt.  And maybe if you watched the cutscenes and paid attention throughout the game you would understand.

And while yes you can get by with hitting only one button, there are plenty of combos that involve multiple buttons, and these combos are quite cool looking, not to mention to use multiple weapons like your scythe, crossblade, power fist, or pistol requires different buttons.



I myself have not a proplem controlling a female. Classic example would be Samus (go figure :) ). Didn't mind controlling Hana & Raine in Fear Factor. Before this gen of consoles, Sun Shang Xiang was my favorite Dynasty Warrior character. My character in Elders Scrolls IV was a female Dunmer. Then there is Heavenly Sword. I'm also appreciative of the anime style. But then again Devil may Cry never appealed to me. I love both JRPG's and WRPG's. Also, used to be a Games Workshop fan who once played Warhammer tabletop and admired Warhammer 40,000 from afar. Darksider's art style reminds me of those franchises. And hearing some reviews saying Darksiders help fill the void after Demon's Souls, my vote has to go to Darksiders between the two. I have no hands on expereince with either game. But if I had to take a chance from just info alone, Darksiders gets the nod.



Hackers are poor nerds who don't wash.

Easy answer.

DMC, God of War, Heavenly Sword.... already got the market for such games. Sometimes games just need to feel different. Bayonetta by the commercials looks like DMC. So from a casual consumer why would a DMC fan buy a game they already have?



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