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Maybe lots of FPS coming out has blunted KZ2 sales. Why buy any FPS other than MW2 or BL. Any multiple console owner could have also starting cutting it's life short with OSDT, L4D etc. That is where the media attention is atm. It's a very saturated genre. How many 3 or 4 million selling FPS can there possibly be in a given year?



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Scruff7 said:
-ku- said:
Maybe the whole issue is it's still selling at 69.99
and it used to sell for 59.99
They marked the price up.

Is it still full priced in US? it's Platinum here in the UK and pretty damn cheap, especially for the quality being FPS of the Year.

It's still full priced at $59.99, not 69.99. It really should be a greatest hits by now though....



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richardhutnik said:
Did I read this correctly? Resistance is outselling Killzone 2? I swore people were telling me before that NO WAY that would happen.

Resistance 2 may have slightly better legs, but it'll never catch up to Killzone's total sales.

I don't know what's up with the original Resistance though.  I guess it's doing well because it's so cheap now.  It's outselling both Killzone 2 and Resistance 2, but the latter are both still $60.

I'm hoping this is just a fluke, though.  Maybe Killzone 2 will pick up steam on word of Killzone 3.  Uncharted's sales improved remarkably around Uncharted 2's release, and that was one of the few periods of time when Uncharted wasn't bundled.  Of course even now the game is showing great sales, because of the new DS3 bundles for $59.99 USD.

At the very worst Sony can start bundling Killzone 2 like mad, whether it's with PS3s or DS3s.    Get the game in more people's homes, and at least a few should like it and come back for the third.  If nothing else it'd be a nice showcase title for a new ps3 owner.

I get the feeling that was Microsoft's strategy with Forza.  They bundled Forza 2 like mad, and Forza 3 is selling far better than either Forza 1 or 2.  It helped spur awareness of the brand.



d21lewis said:
I didn't by it because (based on the hype) after playing it, my life would be complete. I'd have no more goals or aspirations, anymore. I'd have tasted perfection.

You're part of the problem.  ;_;



cant you guys in america import in from the uk?

Like i said, HMV online sells it for just £14.99. That is ludicrously cheap for a quality game!

http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=324;6;-1;-1;82&sku=236637



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makingmusic476 said:
richardhutnik said:
Did I read this correctly? Resistance is outselling Killzone 2? I swore people were telling me before that NO WAY that would happen.

Resistance 2 may have slightly better legs, but it'll never catch up to Killzone's total sales.

I don't know what's up with the original Resistance though.  I guess it's doing well because it's so cheap now.  It's outselling both Killzone 2 and Resistance 2, but the latter are both still $60.

I'm hoping this is just a fluke, though.  Maybe Killzone 2 will pick up steam on word of Killzone 3.  Uncharted's sales improved remarkably around Uncharted 2's release, and that was one of the few periods of time when Uncharted wasn't bundled.  Of course even now the game is showing great sales, because of the new DS3 bundles for $59.99 USD.

At the very worst Sony can start bundling Killzone 2 like mad, whether it's with PS3s or DS3s.    Get the game in more people's homes, and at least a few should like it and come back for the third.  If nothing else it'd be a nice showcase title for a new ps3 owner.

I get the feeling that was Microsoft's strategy with Forza.  They bundled Forza 2 like mad, and Forza 3 is selling far better than either Forza 1 or 2.  It helped spur awareness of the brand.

Most of the times game priices are dropped when a game has run its course.  Then again it can be an attempt to make some sells.  I don't get why these games have ot be $60 for long.  It seem as though it takes forever to drop the price.  Even with Killzone 2 the game is still at its original price. 



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If only the game had more substance on the single player and had more to the online component.



gamings_best said:
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Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
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kay' next question, why didn't it do halo sales? please dont bite my head off im just curious.

A better question: why WOULD it do Halo sales? It doesn't have the brand following, word of mouth, previous iteration respect or marketing of Halo. In fact, the two games are only comparable in genre.

eeek! please no need to get iffy, i getcha' that does make sense.

Don't mean to be snotty, it's just that these two games are compared so frequently and I just don't get it. Yes, their FPS. Yes, their the two big FPS franchises of the HD console manufacturers. BUT, they're not comparable on any other front. I just don't get the frequent comparison and hate when it seems like Killzone 2's sales are bad because Halo's are HUGE, even if I think Killzone 2 should have performed a tad better.


I don't think sales necessarily always equal a better game but its quite clear the games are absolutely comparable.  They're sci-fi FPS first party games with a emphasis on both campaign and multiplayer.  It's quite clear that they're targetting a very similar audience and demographic so can and should be compared.  Sony must have tried to understand why Halo is a huge brand with the sales it obtains and the Killzone franchise isn't performing as well, it would be gross incompetence if they didn't themselves. 

When you compare how Killzone 2 did critically then look in comparison at COD and Halo sales something has gone very wrong.  I personally think its a combination of poor marketing, average first game in the series, control scheme thats not familiar enough to people and ultimately its on the wrong system with a smaller group of the demographic of users it targets. 

The question Seraphic_Sixaxis asked is perfectly valid and one that Sony must have asked too so don't be so harsh on him.  That being said there are too many Halo fanboys that use the comparison to somehow dismiss the quality of Killzone 2 so I can understand why you get tired of seeing the argument raised as it probably brings the same haters into discussions constantly. 

Perhaps Killzone 2 going platinum and marketed (possibly bundled) well around E3 with any potential announcement of a sequel will drive it up to near 4 million LTD which would then in my opinion be classed a real success given the investment and quality of the title.

in no way shape of form can you compare halo and killzone, 1st party fps titles are where the comparasions end. To compare a game they have to be the same, gameplay, target audience, multiplayer set up, etc. and killzone has nothing similar to halo.

Halo plays like a classic fps, weapons and perks are pick-ups, halo is accessible, it has vehicles, and much larger maps, weapons are futuristic (lazers, etc) characters are extremely unrealistic (20 foot high jumps, full health regen, take a lot to kill) enemies are clerly aliens, nothing is realistic, very bright vibrant, multiplayer isn't classed based, and there is no emphsis on teamwork, tactics, stragey, etc.

Now take killzone, dark gritty, not accessible, classed based, warzone last 3x alongf as a halo match, high emphsis on teamwork, strategy, tactics, realistic at it's core, no over the top aliens, weapons grounded in reality, gameplay realistic, no vehicles. 

the games are near polar opposites. you can argue what Sony wanted, but Guerrilla sure didn't have halo anywhere in their heads when developing killzone 2. Same however can't be said for resistance.

 

but mabey your right and mabey that's why killzone didn't do well, people were expecting sony's halo (literally) and got something totally different, and if that's the case then it just wasn't very fair for killzone 2 imo

 

Exactly, and this is my point. FPS or not, the franchsies are hardly comparable.

I stand by my point they are comparable and the only people saying they shouldn't be are Sony fans, other gamers will compare them.  If you do not like the comparison then use COD instead which uses a class system and isn't so action orientated yet still has more success in terms of sales.  The point is that you will deny comparison with anything that is more successful, GG don't need excuses they need to understand how to make the franchise more popular.

so we no longer buy games depending on taste and personal preference, no we buy games based off of which one sold more............. *facepalm* if that's the case then I weep for what gaming has become.

oh and cod does not have a class system, just different loadouts with diffent guns. *doublefacepalm*

Games are made to make money through sales, it's blatantly obvious that both GG and Sony would want it to sell more.

I don't understand why you highlighted that sentence in my post, it has no relevance to your post at all in reference to mine.  My point is it was reasonable to compare both games, yours is some off the wall remark with no relevance to the debate.

You're right that COD doesn't have a fixed class system like Killzone 2, instead it is has a huge customisable class system that allows you to hone them to your style of play.  I don't see this as a facepalm issue at all besides some childish method of trying to get a rise from a poster through your inability to retort to the validity of my posts. 

If you're so naive to think that games aren't made to sell to the biggest audience they can and hence make the most money then frankly sir you're in complete and utter denial and perhaps you should weep in a corner somewhere.  If you want games based on vision with little thought made to financial success then stick to the Indie market.



CGI-Quality said:
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snyperdud said:
It's almost as if consumers look at the box, see that Sony logo in the corner and then just put the game down and immediately walk away.

It's as if people are allergic to good first party Sony games this gen.

Uncharted 2 doesn't seem to agree. And, again, PlayStation games have never had huge sales. It's always been about the size of the library and it's quality. Not how many sales each game gets.

first time i am not with you... U2 is selling very badly... is selling to U1 fans that already had the knowledge about the great quality of the game so it sold very well in the first and following weeks but now... after just a couple of months is selling poorly and being overtaken by AC2, a latter launched game, also a second game of a new IP but being the first game allot worse than U1 was... although AC2 is a very good game it doesn't make much sense selling better in PS3 than U2...

like KZ2 there is allot of things that dont make any sense to me in the PS3 userbase! maybe its just me!

I'm not sure that makes any sense, especially considering it's doing what Uncharted 1 did in MUCH less time WITHOUT the excessive bundling. So your right, you're not with me.

you are right ... its selling well, comparing to U1... and U1 needed bundling being a new IP... and those who bought the first almost for sure bought U2 already and that proves the quality of the first game and the quality of this one too... but comparing to AC2 is just mind blowing the fact that U2 ain't getting the love and sales it deserves... i really hope more people would play this amazing game... first one i ever bought a special edition...

But doesn't that prove you wrong? How can Uncharted 2 be selling badly when it's selling better than the first, and before bundling, IT wasn't selling badly either?

not really... until now it only proves that it got there faster... the last weeks numbers aren't so bright... i am afraid that only U1 fans are buying U2... hope my opinion change in the near future!

How so, if Uncharted 2 was a system seller?

Like to add something, It seems that Uncharted 2 is making people buy the Uncharted 1 (new PS3 users and those people who first bought Uncharted 2). Of course there's the bundle but Sony timed it well to release the greatest hit version for Uncharted 1. I think lot of people are urged to buy the first one bec. they enjoyed the 2nd one.



I think its tracking error, even Resistance 1 outsold it in NA last week.