VictorG said:
Scoobes said:
VictorG said:
Scoobes said: Errr... no.
If we didn't have Sony then we wouldn't have 256 players online at the sametime in the same game. X-box Live and Wii's online infrastructure don't handle that sorta thing.
If we didn't have Sony we wouldn't have dedicated servers in console games (related to point above).
If we didn't have Sony we wouldn't have user-created content and mods appearing in console games like LBP and Unreal Tournament 3.
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Why not? What is the technical limitation that won't allow 256 players on Live? A game can have dedicated servers on Live if a publisher chooses to have them.
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Then why do even first-party games not have dedicated servers? If MS aren't going to push there own system then they can't expect other groups to do so. MS are charging for Live and most games don't have dedicated servers. PSN is free and first-party titles have dedicated server support. So how would Sony leaving be good for consumers? It would just mean MS could get away with a monpoly where they can charge as much as they want for P2P online. And what about the mod issue? Even Epic, who have a close partnership with MS have said how they prefer the freedom of PSN over a closed system.
And believe it or not, but some people do prefer to have a system where the accesseries are not overpriced (which is odd considering it's Sony). I bought a 320Gb HDD for less than the cost of a 120Gb 360HDD. I get Wi-fi out the box. And although you might not like Blu-Ray others do, and if 3D does take off in the future (which I think it will by the end of the gen after seeing Avatar), the PS3 will already support it.
So no, I don't think Sony should leave. We need the competition, and 3 companies comming up with ideas for the "next big thing" is better than 2.
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What other games on PS3 are to have 256 players? You seem to be bogged down in specifics when this thread is about the Playstation 3 as a whole bringing down Sony and hurting the industry. There's nothing stoping Sony from making a 256 player gamer for the 360.
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I like how you only answer a single one of my points and ignore the rest. But my point is BECAUSE Sony is a platform holder they're willing to push the bar to differentiate there console from others. If they didn't have that hardware side they'd be less willing to push these titles. Same as MS and Live and Wii with Wii Sports. If you want sweeping generalisations then you should have said so.
Let's look at this generation without Sony hardware:
HD-DVD would win the format war, Sony wouldn't get any royalties. HD would be a lot less popular as HD-DVD players wouldn't even come close to the combined sales PS3 & Blu-Ray. This could potentially also hit Sony's Bravia range of TVs and movie studios.
We wouldn't have any mods or user-generated on any consoles.
Total sales of HD consoles would be a lot less. Sony would likely make PC & 360 games along with the majority of publishers. PC gamers such as myself wouldn't rush to buy an HD console, as they're isn't enough differentiation between the 2 (My 360 was a present btw). Most people with a PS2 would likely make the jump to Wii, not 360. And without a PS3 slim, they probably wouldn't know any better.
Linked to above: MS wouldn't have to reduce the price of 360 as quickly as they did as they don't have a direct competitor. The $200 price point would probably only just have been reached holiday season just gone.
MS wouldn't have made as many improvements to Live and in all likelihood would have increased the price of the subscription knowing that there is no competition- people wouldn't know any better.
360 gamers likely wouldn't have gotten so much exclusive DLC such as the GTA IV material; they don't have a rival anymore, all the GTA sales will be on 360 so who needs to pay for DLC.
Games like MGS4, Uncharted 2 and other PS3 exclusives that make use of the hardare & Blu-Ray would be radically different in look, cinematics etc.
All FPS games Sony have released wouldn't fare anywhere near as well on 360 and PC where those markets are already oversaturated.
We would be forced to play beat-em-ups on the worlds worst D-pad.
Japanese games would be released on Wii and MS would have an even greater struggle in Japan.