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VictorG said:
Scoobes said:
Errr... no.

If we didn't have Sony then we wouldn't have 256 players online at the sametime in the same game. X-box Live and Wii's online infrastructure don't handle that sorta thing.

If we didn't have Sony we wouldn't have dedicated servers in console games (related to point above).

If we didn't have Sony we wouldn't have user-created content and mods appearing in console games like LBP and Unreal Tournament 3.

So Sony going is a good thing how?


Why not?  What is the technical limitation that won't allow 256 players on Live?  A game can have dedicated servers on Live if a publisher chooses to have them.

Then why do even first-party games not have dedicated servers? If MS aren't going to push there own system then they can't expect other groups to do so. MS are charging for Live and most games don't have dedicated servers. PSN is free and first-party titles have dedicated server support.  So how would Sony leaving be good for consumers? It would just mean MS could get away with a monpoly where they can charge as much as they want for P2P online. And what about the mod issue? Even Epic, who have a close partnership with MS have said how they prefer the freedom of PSN over a closed system.

And believe it or not, but some people do prefer to have a system where the accesseries are not overpriced (which is odd considering it's Sony). I bought a 320Gb HDD for less than the cost of a 120Gb 360HDD. I get Wi-fi out the box. And although you might not like Blu-Ray others do, and if 3D does take off in the future (which I think it will by the end of the gen after seeing Avatar), the PS3 will already support it.

So no, I don't think Sony should leave. We need the competition, and 3 companies comming up with ideas for the "next big thing" is better than 2.



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i'll tell you somethings sony did for their next-gen of consoles.

Blu-Ray development for next-gen.
PlayStation Network development.
New IPs
New Genres ( Play.Create.Share )
New Technologies ( Motion Controller, PsEye, 3D )
Cell Processor development.

also, Sony is doing great, why would they leave the console market when they're already selling more consoles than Microsoft and outselling them? ( 32M consoles in 3 years against 37 in 4 years )

Another fail thread.
Why this didn't happen when the XBOX came out or when the N64 came out or when the GameCube came out?



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Scoobes said:
VictorG said:
Scoobes said:
Errr... no.

If we didn't have Sony then we wouldn't have 256 players online at the sametime in the same game. X-box Live and Wii's online infrastructure don't handle that sorta thing.

If we didn't have Sony we wouldn't have dedicated servers in console games (related to point above).

If we didn't have Sony we wouldn't have user-created content and mods appearing in console games like LBP and Unreal Tournament 3.

So Sony going is a good thing how?


Why not?  What is the technical limitation that won't allow 256 players on Live?  A game can have dedicated servers on Live if a publisher chooses to have them.

Then why do even first-party games not have dedicated servers? If MS aren't going to push there own system then they can't expect other groups to do so. MS are charging for Live and most games don't have dedicated servers. PSN is free and first-party titles have dedicated server support.  So how would Sony leaving be good for consumers? It would just mean MS could get away with a monpoly where they can charge as much as they want for P2P online. And what about the mod issue? Even Epic, who have a close partnership with MS have said how they prefer the freedom of PSN over a closed system.

And believe it or not, but some people do prefer to have a system where the accesseries are not overpriced (which is odd considering it's Sony). I bought a 320Gb HDD for less than the cost of a 120Gb 360HDD. I get Wi-fi out the box. And although you might not like Blu-Ray others do, and if 3D does take off in the future (which I think it will by the end of the gen after seeing Avatar), the PS3 will already support it.

So no, I don't think Sony should leave. We need the competition, and 3 companies comming up with ideas for the "next big thing" is better than 2.


What other games on PS3 are to have 256 players?  You seem to be bogged down in specifics when this thread is about the Playstation 3 as a whole bringing down Sony and hurting the industry.  There's nothing stoping Sony from making a 256 player gamer for the 360.



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VictorG said:
jneul said:
VictorG maybe I should create a thread explaining why vgchartz should ban you, these thread are pointless and only start wars


At least my thread has actual points to it.  If you don't want to discuss them then leave this thread but don't try to make a thinly veiled ban threat again.  Lets get back on topic people, no more attempts at thread derailment.

You may have made points, but you won't be makin many friends here, and that was not a ban threat,, I am so sick of xxx is doomed or xxx should leave, can't we all just enjoy our consoles without blantant attempts to start arguments.

How would you like it if someone else made a similar thread about Microsoft or Nintendo (I don't know who you support)??



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iWarMachine said:
i'll tell you somethings sony did for their next-gen of consoles.

Blu-Ray development for next-gen.  More expensive with little to gain from it.
PlayStation Network development.  Anything worthwhile is on other consoles.
New IPs  Could be made for the Xbox 360.
New Genres ( Play.Create.Share ) 
New Technologies ( Motion Controller, PsEye, 3D )  Can be done on other consoles.
Cell Processor development.  More expensive with little to gain from it.

also, Sony is doing great, why would they leave the console market when they're already selling more consoles than Microsoft and outselling them? ( 32M consoles in 3 years against 37 in 4 years )

Another fail thread.
Why this didn't happen when the XBOX came out or when the N64 came out or when the GameCube came out?


Sony is doing great?  They're still losing money on the Playstation 3 and third-parties are suffering, how it any of that great?



jneul said:
VictorG said:
jneul said:
VictorG maybe I should create a thread explaining why vgchartz should ban you, these thread are pointless and only start wars


At least my thread has actual points to it.  If you don't want to discuss them then leave this thread but don't try to make a thinly veiled ban threat again.  Lets get back on topic people, no more attempts at thread derailment.

You may have made points, but you won't be makin many friends here, and that was not a ban threat,, I am so sick of xxx is doomed or xxx should leave, can't we all just enjoy our consoles without blantant attempts to start arguments.

How would you like it if someone else made a similar thread about Microsoft or Nintendo (I don't know who you support)??


Someone did before this one. He then said this. And then, he comes here, and makes this thread. Interesting...

 

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iWarMachine said:

Another fail thread.
Why this didn't happen when the XBOX came out or when the N64 came out or when the GameCube came out?

lol, what are you talking about?  The "Nintendo should go 3rd party" mantra was near ubiquitous on blogs and forums 5 years ago?



jneul said:
VictorG said:
jneul said:
VictorG maybe I should create a thread explaining why vgchartz should ban you, these thread are pointless and only start wars


At least my thread has actual points to it.  If you don't want to discuss them then leave this thread but don't try to make a thinly veiled ban threat again.  Lets get back on topic people, no more attempts at thread derailment.

You may have made points, but you won't be makin many friends here, and that was not a ban threat,, I am so sick of xxx is doomed or xxx should leave, can't we all just enjoy our consoles without blantant attempts to start arguments.

How would you like it if someone else made a similar thread about Microsoft or Nintendo (I don't know who you support)??


I complained and nothing was done about the one in the Microsoft Forum. it's still open.  I decided to make one with some real points of discussion to it because I feel if any company should leave it should be Sony and I spelled out the reasons why.  People are free to debate those reasons which are far more legitimate than the threads simply stating "X console should leave video games" with no actual real points given.



VictorG said:
jneul said:
VictorG said:
jneul said:
VictorG maybe I should create a thread explaining why vgchartz should ban you, these thread are pointless and only start wars


At least my thread has actual points to it.  If you don't want to discuss them then leave this thread but don't try to make a thinly veiled ban threat again.  Lets get back on topic people, no more attempts at thread derailment.

You may have made points, but you won't be makin many friends here, and that was not a ban threat,, I am so sick of xxx is doomed or xxx should leave, can't we all just enjoy our consoles without blantant attempts to start arguments.

How would you like it if someone else made a similar thread about Microsoft or Nintendo (I don't know who you support)??


I complained and nothing was done about the one in the Microsoft Forum. it's still open.  I decided to make one with some real points of discussion to it because I feel if any company should leave it should be Sony and I spelled out the reasons why.  People are free to debate those reasons which are far more legitimate than the threads simply stating "X console should leave video games" with no actual real points given.

yeh i just found your comment and may I quote

"Anyone that goes into a forum dedicated to a particular console and asks members for reasons why the manufacturer of that console should get out of the video game business is trolling.

How did this thread get to 5 pages without a mod noticing it? It's been reported."

That is exactly what you said, so you are trolling then, and you have just lowered your standards



it's the future of handheld

PS VITA = LIFE

The official Vita thread http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=130023&page=1