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amp316 said:
noname2200 said:
If this generation has taught me anything, it's that we should always listen to Michael "Wii HD" Pachter!

Exactly. 

He must have a telephone that calls God or something. 


It's patcher so you don't no what to expected but serious this guy is awesome.



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Kennyheart said:
Lastgengamer said:
I don't see how 3rd partys could ever ignore the Wii simply because of the massive user base.

all write name me one 3rd party game that sold over a million unit's that is not an established francise.

Carnival Games.

There's one.



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Kennyheart said:
Lastgengamer said:
I don't see how 3rd partys could ever ignore the Wii simply because of the massive user base.

all write name me one 3rd party game that sold over a million unit's that is not an established francise.

Red Steel.



I remember in the days of N64 and GC, when they had few but classic games while the PSOne/PS2 had classic games too, but with loads of shovelware... their fans said "Your console has no games! Even if our console has lots of crap, at least we have games to choose from! Your console sucks!"

Ahhh... good days.



amp316 said:
Kennyheart said:
Lastgengamer said:
I don't see how 3rd partys could ever ignore the Wii simply because of the massive user base.

all write name me one 3rd party game that sold over a million unit's that is not an established francise.

Carnival Games.

There's one.


all right now how many 3rd partie games are there on the XBOX and PS3 that sold a million.



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Kennyheart said:
Lastgengamer said:
I don't see how 3rd partys could ever ignore the Wii simply because of the massive user base.

all write name me one 3rd party game that sold over a million unit's that is not an established francise.

EA Sports Active

Game Party

Wii anything

Deca Sports

My Fitness Coach

Big Beach Sports

Shaun White Snowboarding

The first Rock Band (wasn't an established franchise at that point)

We Ski

Active Life

Smarty Pants

Red Steel

Boom Blox



"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."

"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."

Kennyheart said:
amp316 said:
Kennyheart said:
Lastgengamer said:
I don't see how 3rd partys could ever ignore the Wii simply because of the massive user base.

all write name me one 3rd party game that sold over a million unit's that is not an established francise.

Carnival Games.

There's one.


all right now how many 3rd partie games are there on the XBOX and PS3 that sold a million.

that were new ip's? I counted only six for the PS3



"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."

"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."

Kennyheart said:
amp316 said:
Kennyheart said:
Lastgengamer said:
I don't see how 3rd partys could ever ignore the Wii simply because of the massive user base.

all write name me one 3rd party game that sold over a million unit's that is not an established francise.

Carnival Games.

There's one.


all right now how many 3rd partie games are there on the XBOX and PS3 that sold a million.

That's not from an established franchise?

Assassin's Creed.

Lego Indy (shared w/ Wii)

Kung Fu Panda (bundled)

Sega Superstar Tennis (shared w/ Wii)

Left 4 Dead

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (shared w/ Wii)

Bioshock

Mass Effect

Saint's Row

Lost Planet

Dead Rising

Army of Two

Crackdown (bundled w/ Halo 3 demo)

Batman: Arkham Asylum

Borderlands

Prototype

 

I think that's it. Sixteen, three of which overlap w/ Wii.



noname2200 said:
Kennyheart said:
amp316 said:
Kennyheart said:
Lastgengamer said:
I don't see how 3rd partys could ever ignore the Wii simply because of the massive user base.

all write name me one 3rd party game that sold over a million unit's that is not an established francise.

Carnival Games.

There's one.


all right now how many 3rd partie games are there on the XBOX and PS3 that sold a million.

That's not from an established franchise?

Assassin's Creed.

Lego Indy (shared w/ Wii)

Kung Fu Panda (bundled)

Sega Superstar Tennis (shared w/ Wii)

Left 4 Dead

Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (shared w/ Wii)

Bioshock

Mass Effect

Saint's Row

Lost Planet

Dead Rising

Army of Two

Crackdown (bundled w/ Halo 3 demo)

Batman: Arkham Asylum

Borderlands

Prototype

 

I think that's it. Sixteen, three of which overlap w/ Wii.

I'd argue those could be considered "established franchises"



"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."

"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."

griffinA said:

I'd argue those could be considered "franchises"

I debated that with myself, but ultimately included them. You're probably right though.

And I should probably include that UFC game, although it's a popular tie-in, like Kung Fu Panda, which is apparently what we seem to hate now...?