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woopah on 08 January 2010

sounds extrmeley positive for an 8



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jammy2211 on 08 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
jammy2211 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
The sad thing is this came could sell on par with the Ace Combat games (as in good, but not platinum sales), and will be called a flop anyway.

As much as I hate quoting you and invevitably getting into some long arsed debate with you, if this game sold 750k copies I'd be very very impressed. I don't think it will, but I'd say any anti-wii type guy would have a hard time debating otherwise. 

 Of course that's provided they don't get all those sales at a discounted $10 price tag late in its lifespan or anything.

My issues are mainly with logical fallacies, intentional or otherwise. And here, we actually agree.

Also, I meant any game in the series, although all of them have sold well.

 Looking lower down the list, I'd hardly call 400k a success, but not a flop, just a er, average sales I guess.

 But yeah, we got alot in common, just seem to disagree alot :P. I see no reason this game is going to sell at all, it takes me as another decent game put out to death row with no marketing to stand on. 



LordTheNightKnight on 08 January 2010
jammy2211 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
jammy2211 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
The sad thing is this came could sell on par with the Ace Combat games (as in good, but not platinum sales), and will be called a flop anyway.

As much as I hate quoting you and invevitably getting into some long arsed debate with you, if this game sold 750k copies I'd be very very impressed. I don't think it will, but I'd say any anti-wii type guy would have a hard time debating otherwise. 

 Of course that's provided they don't get all those sales at a discounted $10 price tag late in its lifespan or anything.

My issues are mainly with logical fallacies, intentional or otherwise. And here, we actually agree.

Also, I meant any game in the series, although all of them have sold well.

 Looking lower down the list, I'd hardly call 400k a success, but not a flop, just a er, average sales I guess.

 But yeah, we got alot in common, just seem to disagree alot :P. I see no reason this game is going to sell at all, it takes me as another decent game put out to death row with no marketing to stand on. 

The thing is that 400K is just not a hit for HD games or major franchises. Most SD games would make a good profit with that many sales, such as Fire Emblem on the Wii.



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SaviorX on 08 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
jammy2211 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
jammy2211 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
The sad thing is this came could sell on par with the Ace Combat games (as in good, but not platinum sales), and will be called a flop anyway.

As much as I hate quoting you and invevitably getting into some long arsed debate with you, if this game sold 750k copies I'd be very very impressed. I don't think it will, but I'd say any anti-wii type guy would have a hard time debating otherwise. 

 Of course that's provided they don't get all those sales at a discounted $10 price tag late in its lifespan or anything.

My issues are mainly with logical fallacies, intentional or otherwise. And here, we actually agree.

Also, I meant any game in the series, although all of them have sold well.

 Looking lower down the list, I'd hardly call 400k a success, but not a flop, just a er, average sales I guess.

 But yeah, we got alot in common, just seem to disagree alot :P. I see no reason this game is going to sell at all, it takes me as another decent game put out to death row with no marketing to stand on. 

The thing is that 400K is just not a hit for HD games or major franchises. Most SD games would make a good profit with that many sales, such as Fire Emblem on the Wii.

True. The "1 million or bust standard" may apply to HD/PS360 games, but for the Wii it does not apply to the overwhleming majority of games. A million isn't the necessary benchmark for profitability.



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griffinA on 08 January 2010

After reading the review I sort of expected an 8.5 or something...



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Hisiru on 08 January 2010

Another good review for this game!



jammy2211 on 08 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
jammy2211 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
jammy2211 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
The sad thing is this came could sell on par with the Ace Combat games (as in good, but not platinum sales), and will be called a flop anyway.

As much as I hate quoting you and invevitably getting into some long arsed debate with you, if this game sold 750k copies I'd be very very impressed. I don't think it will, but I'd say any anti-wii type guy would have a hard time debating otherwise. 

 Of course that's provided they don't get all those sales at a discounted $10 price tag late in its lifespan or anything.

My issues are mainly with logical fallacies, intentional or otherwise. And here, we actually agree.

Also, I meant any game in the series, although all of them have sold well.

 Looking lower down the list, I'd hardly call 400k a success, but not a flop, just a er, average sales I guess.

 But yeah, we got alot in common, just seem to disagree alot :P. I see no reason this game is going to sell at all, it takes me as another decent game put out to death row with no marketing to stand on. 

The thing is that 400K is just not a hit for HD games or major franchises. Most SD games would make a good profit with that many sales, such as Fire Emblem on the Wii.

400k sales, all at full price, for a game with a non-exsistant marketing budget is definitely a success. Not the sort of success you can build a transnational company like EA or Activision on, but the foundations for better things for sure.

 I think you've always got to put sales relative to the game and how it got there. 400k isn't a hit for all Wii games, and 400k at budget price is hard to get any revenue from. While HD games on average obviously have higher expectations, theres no reason they can't be budgeted to be a hit at 400k too.



LordTheNightKnight on 08 January 2010

"400k sales, all at full price, for a game with a non-exsistant marketing budget is definitely a success. Not the sort of success you can build a transnational company like EA or Activision on, but the foundations for better things for sure."

Again, the biggest games are an exception when it comes to SD, but the Ace Combat series wasn't really a huge franchise, although on bigger than most.



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Shonen on 09 January 2010

i had forgot abolt this game , and that IGN still exists hdaushdasu ... now i will go and get a copy of the game , but i wont back to be a IGN user dhasudhasuh



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