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vlad321 said:
I didn't know it was illegal to hack and mod them. I know it's illegal to copyright infringe though.

you can thank Bill Clinton.

From Wiki as I'm too lazy to do my own research.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law that implements two 1996 treaties of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as digital rights management or DRM) that control access to copyrighted works. It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. In addition, the DMCA heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet. Passed on October 12, 1998 by a unanimous vote in the United States Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended Title 17 of the United States Code to extend the reach of copyright, while limiting the liability of the providers of on-line services for copyright infringement by their users.




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nordlead said:
vlad321 said:
I didn't know it was illegal to hack and mod them. I know it's illegal to copyright infringe though.

you can thank Bill Clinton.

From Wiki as I'm too lazy to do my own research.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law that implements two 1996 treaties of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as digital rights management or DRM) that control access to copyrighted works. It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. In addition, the DMCA heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet. Passed on October 12, 1998 by a unanimous vote in the United States Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended Title 17 of the United States Code to extend the reach of copyright, while limiting the liability of the providers of on-line services for copyright infringement by their users.

There you go that is what i got informed of.

 

So in theese countries you do not own your console then you just rent it or lease it?

 



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vaio said:
nordlead said:
vlad321 said:
I didn't know it was illegal to hack and mod them. I know it's illegal to copyright infringe though.

you can thank Bill Clinton.

From Wiki as I'm too lazy to do my own research.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law that implements two 1996 treaties of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as digital rights management or DRM) that control access to copyrighted works. It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. In addition, the DMCA heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet. Passed on October 12, 1998 by a unanimous vote in the United States Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended Title 17 of the United States Code to extend the reach of copyright, while limiting the liability of the providers of on-line services for copyright infringement by their users.

There you go that is what i got informed of.

So in theese countries you do not own your console then you just rent it or lease it?

rent/lease would imply that I have to return it at some point. I own it, the government just decided that they are in control of our lives and that we can't circumvent DRM. Just remember people, it takes a village to raise a child...




If you drop a PS3 right on top of a Wii, it would definitely defeat it. Not so sure about the Xbox360. - mancandy
In the past we played games. In the future we watch games. - Forest-Spirit
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06/03/09 Purchase: Moderator Privilege  vg$ -50,000.00

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Well it gets kinda fuzzy on that one actually. From what I understand the act of backwards engineering encryption is the enforced part. In theory so long as you modded it only to play new software it should be fine as it does not defeat the security measures on the disc. DMCA is a weird, and harmful set of laws. Some of them might be unconstitutional but there are very few Supreme Court cases on it.



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nordlead said:
vaio said:
nordlead said:
vlad321 said:
I didn't know it was illegal to hack and mod them. I know it's illegal to copyright infringe though.

you can thank Bill Clinton.

From Wiki as I'm too lazy to do my own research.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) is a United States copyright law that implements two 1996 treaties of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as digital rights management or DRM) that control access to copyrighted works. It also criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself. In addition, the DMCA heightens the penalties for copyright infringement on the Internet. Passed on October 12, 1998 by a unanimous vote in the United States Senate and signed into law by President Bill Clinton on October 28, 1998, the DMCA amended Title 17 of the United States Code to extend the reach of copyright, while limiting the liability of the providers of on-line services for copyright infringement by their users.

There you go that is what i got informed of.

So in theese countries you do not own your console then you just rent it or lease it?

rent/lease would imply that I have to return it at some point. I own it, the government just decided that they are in control of our lives and that we can't circumvent DRM. Just remember people, it takes a village to raise a child...

For the ammount we pay for consoles I would see it like you rent/lease it for life because the way i see it if you arent allowed to do what ever you want with the product you payed for then its not yours to begin with and you pay for the right to use the product and not to own the product. Would that be a fair conclusion?



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In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

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vaio said:
nordlead said:

rent/lease would imply that I have to return it at some point. I own it, the government just decided that they are in control of our lives and that we can't circumvent DRM. Just remember people, it takes a village to raise a child...

For the ammount we pay for consoles I would see it like you rent/lease it for life because the way i see it if you arent allowed to do what ever you want with the product you payed for then its not yours to begin with and you pay for the right to use the product and not to own the product. Would that be a fair conclusion?

Basically, any software you buy, you are buying the right to use the software, not an actual product.  That right has certain limitations in the way you use it explained in the EULA.  I'm not surprised electronics are treated the same way.