the problem is that 360 fans are blowing out of proportune what NATAL will be, i dont think it will fail but i want both this and the PS wand to fail as they need to stick to the controller based games! thats why i brought them over a Wii

also, just to say......sony didnt come up with it?....um...i had something the same LAST gen........Camera based gaming is done

@ Avin

Whislt ignoring their consumers? Smart thinking.
Anyway what are you talking about? How is it a certain failure? You can predict the future?

The reason it's getting a lot of hate is because it's not on someones console of choice, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with whatever flimsy reason someone tries to come up with to cover that up.

What does the core audience or ninty ignoring it's consumers have to do with my point?

The wiiboard. Silly concept but immedietly taken on board by ninty owners without reservation. Why because it's on their console.
The Dil...Zit on a stick. Very similar to the Waggle stick yet with the years of mocking waggle this is going to be great. Why insert flimst reason by said fans.

The wavy arm webcam. Wont work but when webcam used in gaming was on the PS2 it was awesome.

Fact is the people who hate (though not all) only hate because it's not on their machine and would change their tune quickly when announced for their machine. It's subhuman fangirl nature.

@PSgamer

You want it to fail? You don't like options? But if you have a PS3 I bet you're glad it does everything except now you don't like something to give you the option to do everything?

Makes sense, also you reminded me of another good reason why people hate it. Fear.

Oh no they'll take my joypad away from me so attack attack attack.
It's an irrational fear of losing their joypad. It won't happen. The joypad is and will always be the best most used method of controlling a game but some people don't see this and get scared by the mere notion of something new.

And sony came up with a multi-body full depth sensing camera last gen?

Of course they did. You can always rely on a sony fan to shout "simpsons did it" I thought they released a cheap webcam poorly implemented into 1 or 2 games? And were they first? Dreameye *cough**cough*

I can predict the future by using business strategy, read Christensen, of the Harvard business school, and you'll understand.

No the reason people hate is because a product is supposed to satisfy the need for a job to be fulfilled, when it doesn't thats when people point out its flaws

What are the needs of gaming?  What need did Wii Fit provide the satisfaction to?

Soooo, WHERE ARE THE GAMES?

Did you undertsand it?

Harvard. An ok school, I'll read up using literature from Cambridge. Hey now that means I can predict the future better than you.

So natal hasn't fulfilled the need for the job it's supposed to. you know this because it's out already? Because you've tried it? It doesn't do full body depth tracking? Oh wait? Guess it's filled it's brief.

Please, leave your snobbery at the door. You can't predict the future and to flat out claim you can is laughable. You don't know, very few do and those that predict it accurately were lucky than anything else. Did you predict the success of the Wii?

I bet you did.

I see No change in the world

This is what will change the world

Natal is good and I am sure over the years the Natal tech will improve, but next to this, it is still far off from becoming an Industry standard. Novelty wears of quickly. It takes less precision and effort to push a button on a remote than to wave your arms around.

However, I will hold my final judgement until Natal is released.

another free PR thread ... great

People who don;t want a game that takes too much time out of their life, but can help them be a bit active, these gamers don't want to be immersed in a game world, they want something that will work within their lives