I like how you say those demonstrations failed as if you didn't just write a post about Natal which directly references them.

Because that's sort of the purpose of advertising. Bringing things to your attention and getting you to think and talk about them later. Maybe the Good Morning America spot didn't make you want Natal, but I don't see how it was a "failed demo". The game worked like it was supposed to. The episode aired. You're talking about it now and there are surely people out there who were impressed. So what's the problem?

Ah, wait a minute. I remember now. On Good Morning America, one of the hosts played for a bit and then when he stepped out and the other person stepped in, the system didn't recognize them right away. But then they took a step forward and it worked again. Is that what you meant? Is that what passes for a "failed demo" these days? It's a bit of a stretch.

Actually both natal and 3d got a lot of press at ces, why do you have a hard time with that.

NATAL faces problems, because MS is going to fight at a disadvantage to Nintendo in this battle, you see there is a theory in business called RPV (resources, processes and values), basically it analyzes companies on these aspects, normally companies fight along similar lines companies have similar skills and strengths, but in this case, MS and Nintendo have very different processes and values, basically this puts MS (and Sony faces similar disadvantages as well) at a disadvantage when facing Nintendo on this front.

a 360 is interesting, natal isn't.

Maybe we should wait and see how Natal does commercially before we make any outrageous claims?

Nah.

It's because Sony didn't come up with it and have a rival coming out to Natal.

It's also because Nintendo has something in a similar vein that no-one else can have anything similar. Even though the wiimote wasn't the first out there.

It's the insecure rival owners hating it that would be loving it if it was on their machine.

No, since it wouldn't be the same if Nintendo was trying to implement it, the problem with incumbents trying to put out an innovation is they try and rework it until its most profitable to their already existing core customer, and the thing is, even MS admits that its going to try and use NATAL to target the core, this is the problem with NATAL

Avin
I think you quoted the wrong people. I never mentioned how they was going to implement it, or how ninty would implement it if it was theirs.

  No, you said that people would love it on their console, and I was pointing out how no they wouldn't, not how it is, right now its a certain failure, MS instead of doing the smart thing and trying to disrupt the disruptor, is instead trying to bring the innovation to their core audience, which is not going to work, its a failure of the difference in the values of the two companies.

If Nintendo were to implement this, they would try and use it to appeal to nonconsumers, this is the difference.