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Avinash_Tyagi on 06 January 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
morenoingrato said:
another "wii is doomed" analyst

Didn't you know, the more Wii sells the higher its doom coefficient rises, when it outsells the PS2 lifetime sales its doom meter will rise over 9000!

so when wii lifetime sales surpass the entire playstations family's sales (judging by your prediction in your signature) how high will the wii doom coefficient be then?

Oh at that point its doom will grow so large, the entire universe will be destroyed

in that case I'm happy knowing the entire universe won't be destroyed

lol



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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c0rd on 06 January 2010
psrock said:
Can we not turn this thread into every one hates the Wii crap. It's one analyst giving his opinion.

Nobody said "everyone hates the Wii," I think darth only assumed Arius did. This guy probably fits in the "Wii hate" category, though. Let's look at his reasoning:

One key takeaway from the holiday period is that there is ample demand for console hardware at reduced price points. Not only did Nintendo’s Wii benefit from a reacceleration in unit sales at lower price points ($149 in many stores), but PS3 sell-through is improving and the Xbox 360 is maintaining momentum.

The Wii is $149 in many stores? News to me. Funny how he mentioned PS3 sell-through improving, without mentioning the slim redesign along with its huge $100 pricecut.

While not surprising that the Wii disproportionately sold more units in 4Q, as it remains a popular gift item, the recently reported 3+ million units sold in December exceeded our expectations. However, we remain cautious in modeling follow-on Wii sales in 2010

The Wii exceeds expectations, but they remain cautious about the system. Why? He gives no explanation. Call me crazy, but it looks like the guy just really wants the console to fail.

With an increasing interest in HDTVs and a solid software lineup for Sony's console, we'd expect the PS3 to have a great year in 2010. The Wii, on the other hand, may need to incorporate another price drop to $149 to further entice consumers.

This is the 2006-2007 argument of "HD consoles will overtake the Wii, because HDTV adoption rate will increase!" In reality, this hasn't been the case. The guy then mentions the Wii needs another price drop to entice customers, yet no mention is given for the HD consoles, which have needed multiple cuts in order to sustain momentum - the Wii made it this far with only one.

I can't take this guy seriously. A 20% drop for the Wii is freakin huge.


Also, 2 people have mentioned how the PS3 has always sold more year after year, but this is not a useful trend. Do you think it'll continue to sell better every single year? It simply hasn't reached its peak yet, and assuming it'll increase for 2010 just because it did the same every previous year makes little sense.



peachbuggy on 06 January 2010

Analysts have been talking shit this entire gen, so why shold they stop now?



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psrock on 06 January 2010
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sebastian was the same guy who thought MW2 would sell 20 million, ROFL, now its getting slaughtered by mario

MW 2 that has sold over 14 Million copies in 7 weeks? Probably closer (or over) to 15 Million if you add whatever has been sold on PC.

NMSB Wii has sold 8.6m in 6 weeks.

How is NSMB currently slaughtering MW2, exactly?

*looks at weekly sales*

*looks at fact that its passed both versions individually while still selling over 1.5 million a week*

Yet it is still behind MW2 in sales.

For now, but the way it's selling, it'll not only pass MW2, it could likely pass NSMB DS and even 30 million

So?

Does that mean MW2 wont reach 20 Million?

Does it change the fact that currently MW2 > NSMB Wii?

Actually, tthe reason why MW2 won't reach 20 Million, is because its already running out of steam, and we haven't even seen how far it'll fall after the holidays.

As for the second issue, the fact that MW2 combined is higher than the NSMB Wii for the moment doesn't change that NSMB Wii is crushing it, one need only look at weekly sales and how quickly NSMB Wii has passed the sales of each version separately

 so hence my points stand, MW2 is being crushed by NSMB Wii and will not reach 20 million

Seriously, can you stop making facts up, it's very annoying.

How is MWF2 running out steam? So MWF2 will stop selling while NSMB will keep selling 1.5 million a week?

Tell me one game that has sold 14 million copies in 7 weeks?



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Carl on 06 January 2010
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sebastian was the same guy who thought MW2 would sell 20 million, ROFL, now its getting slaughtered by mario

MW 2 that has sold over 14 Million copies in 7 weeks? Probably closer (or over) to 15 Million if you add whatever has been sold on PC.

NMSB Wii has sold 8.6m in 6 weeks.

How is NSMB currently slaughtering MW2, exactly?

*looks at weekly sales*

*looks at fact that its passed both versions individually while still selling over 1.5 million a week*

Yet it is still behind MW2 in sales.

For now, but the way it's selling, it'll not only pass MW2, it could likely pass NSMB DS and even 30 million

So?

Does that mean MW2 wont reach 20 Million?

Does it change the fact that currently MW2 > NSMB Wii?

Actually, tthe reason why MW2 won't reach 20 Million, is because its already running out of steam, and we haven't even seen how far it'll fall after the holidays.

As for the second issue, the fact that MW2 combined is higher than the NSMB Wii for the moment doesn't change that NSMB Wii is crushing it, one need only look at weekly sales and how quickly NSMB Wii has passed the sales of each version separately

 so hence my points stand, MW2 is being crushed by NSMB Wii and will not reach 20 million

Running out of steam? Must have a lot of steam left then, it sold over a million copies this week...

So? MW2 is still > MSNB Wii. Stop trying to spin it. Modern Warfare 2 has currently sold more than NSMB Wii. A whole lot more, actually.

No it doesn't. 



                            

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Grimes on 06 January 2010
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sebastian was the same guy who thought MW2 would sell 20 million, ROFL, now its getting slaughtered by mario

MW 2 that has sold over 14 Million copies in 7 weeks? Probably closer (or over) to 15 Million if you add whatever has been sold on PC.

NMSB Wii has sold 8.6m in 6 weeks.

How is NSMB currently slaughtering MW2, exactly?

*looks at weekly sales*

*looks at fact that its passed both versions individually while still selling over 1.5 million a week*

Yet it is still behind MW2 in sales.

GTA IV had a similar advantage over Mario Kart Wii, for a little while.



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adam84 on 06 January 2010

@Carl2291

NSMB is killing it if you look at the PS3 figures or 360. If you look at both then your right. ok if you have two formats then count both of the NSMB wii and DS together. see what i mean?



psrock on 06 January 2010
Grimes said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sebastian was the same guy who thought MW2 would sell 20 million, ROFL, now its getting slaughtered by mario

MW 2 that has sold over 14 Million copies in 7 weeks? Probably closer (or over) to 15 Million if you add whatever has been sold on PC.

NMSB Wii has sold 8.6m in 6 weeks.

How is NSMB currently slaughtering MW2, exactly?

*looks at weekly sales*

*looks at fact that its passed both versions individually while still selling over 1.5 million a week*

Yet it is still behind MW2 in sales.

GTA IV had a similar advantage over Mario Kart Wii, for a little while.

he's not debating the fact NSMB will outsell MWF2, he is saying that it's still leading at the moment and selling very well too.



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Playingwithfirex on 06 January 2010

MW2 not selling 20m...are you insane, I'm not even going to bother. It's very possible that PS3 will increase 10%(both weekly and definitely Year on Year sales). As for 360 decreasing 5%... I'm not sure, I mean it already decreased from 2008, I think it will only increase from here. Wii decreasing 20%? Don't see that happening, maybe when Natal and GEM launch...



2010 Hardware Sales Predictions

Wii: 20m- Sales will drop, but not by much.

PS3: 13.5m- It sold 12m in 2009, its only common sense it will sell more this year.

Xbox 360: 11m- It sold 11m in 2008 and 2009, I think it will sell the same.

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Carl on 06 January 2010
Grimes said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sebastian was the same guy who thought MW2 would sell 20 million, ROFL, now its getting slaughtered by mario

MW 2 that has sold over 14 Million copies in 7 weeks? Probably closer (or over) to 15 Million if you add whatever has been sold on PC.

NMSB Wii has sold 8.6m in 6 weeks.

How is NSMB currently slaughtering MW2, exactly?

*looks at weekly sales*

*looks at fact that its passed both versions individually while still selling over 1.5 million a week*

Yet it is still behind MW2 in sales.

GTA IV had a similar advantage over Mario Kart Wii, for a little while.

GTA4 and MK Wii have nothing to do with this discussion.

Even if you bring them into it... It doesn't change the fact that Modern Warfare 2 is still above NSMB Wii.