By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sony - Kojima to return to PS3, thanks to Modern Warfare 2?

demonfox13 on 03 January 2010
ssj12 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Lastgengamer said:

http://connectedconsoles.com/ps3-Kojima-to-return-to-PS3-thanks-to-Modern-Warfare-2.cfm

Modern Warfare 2 has inspired Kojima

Hideo Kojima is probably the most legendary game developer in the business.

What about Shigeru Miyamoto? He developed the Mario and the Zelda series. MGS is afterall, only a 4 game series, no matter how good it is, and Miyamoto changed the ways 2d games were played with Mario and Zelda, and then he...invented the way 3d games are played with Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time. Most recently, he's changed the ways gaming will be played in the future with Wii Fit, and his contribution to motion controls which ALL consoles are now fully adopting.

Kojima is an epic developer but probably IS NOT the most legendary game developer in the business, as long as Miyamoto is around, imho.

the metal gear franchise is not only 4 games, and he has created several other AMAZING games. Miyamoto only seems capable of mostly only mario and Wii titled games.

AMEN.



Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)

I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/  hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.

Around the Network
mushroomboy5 on 03 January 2010
demonfox13 said:
 

 

I apologize for that wall of text. Best platforming action/adventure type game ever belongs to Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. No doubt Miyamoto is also up there but he has yet to touch the depth offered in even the very first Metal Gear title in the NES with the Outer Heaven conflict. On a side note I enjoyed the first pitfall on the atari 2600 more than I ever enjoyed SMB 1. It wasn't until SMB3 that I was wowed by true innovation. Oh and as a Nintendo loyalist I hope you do realize SMB2 was exactly the same as SMB1 except harder. What americans know as SMB 2 is doki doki panic with Mario skins thrown in for good measure. 

 

Hey, in case you didn't know (and you don't seem to) 'Castlevania Symphony of the Night' was actually a total rip-off of Metroid (though a great game none the less) which is a nintendo franchise!

I would have thought someone who seems to be so knowledgible in the history of video games would know that!



thismeintiel on 03 January 2010

Uhm, what's up with the Nintendo fans coming in here praising Miyamoto just because the OP said Kojima is the greatest developer. It's the guys opinion, and it wasn't even the main point of the article. I mean really, can't you hear someone other than Nintendo praised without without having to be like, "Well I diasagree, Miyamoto (Nintendo) is so much better." Don't get me wrong, I like Miyamoto and a lot of his games. But he didn't invent gaming or platforming, he just added his own twist and improved upon previous ideas. I just don't feel those posts have any point in this thread, as it's not a "Who do you think is the greatest developer?" thread.

@OP: I really don't think Kojima left PS3. Actually, if my memory serves me correctly, Kojima hasn't developed for any other console besides PS consoles (excluding previous gen's without PS's, of course.) I believe he has always developered for PS's, while his games are ported to other systems, without his direct involvement. Either way, I am looking forward to whatever he brings us next. Maybe a FPS, or another ZOE installment.



 

thismeintiel on 03 January 2010
mushroomboy5 said:
demonfox13 said:
 

 

I apologize for that wall of text. Best platforming action/adventure type game ever belongs to Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. No doubt Miyamoto is also up there but he has yet to touch the depth offered in even the very first Metal Gear title in the NES with the Outer Heaven conflict. On a side note I enjoyed the first pitfall on the atari 2600 more than I ever enjoyed SMB 1. It wasn't until SMB3 that I was wowed by true innovation. Oh and as a Nintendo loyalist I hope you do realize SMB2 was exactly the same as SMB1 except harder. What americans know as SMB 2 is doki doki panic with Mario skins thrown in for good measure. 

 

Hey, in case you didn't know (and you don't seem to) 'Castlevania Symphony of the Night' was actually a total rip-off of Metroid (though a great game none the less) which is a nintendo franchise!

I would have thought someone who seems to be so knowledgible in the history of video games would know that!

You sure it wasn't just an improved version of the formula of Castlevania 2?  Come on guys.  Nintendo is great.  But not all video game ideas originate from them. 



 

klaudkil on 03 January 2010

Zone of the enders 3



Around the Network
demonfox13 on 03 January 2010
thismeintiel said:
mushroomboy5 said:
demonfox13 said:
 

 

I apologize for that wall of text. Best platforming action/adventure type game ever belongs to Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. No doubt Miyamoto is also up there but he has yet to touch the depth offered in even the very first Metal Gear title in the NES with the Outer Heaven conflict. On a side note I enjoyed the first pitfall on the atari 2600 more than I ever enjoyed SMB 1. It wasn't until SMB3 that I was wowed by true innovation. Oh and as a Nintendo loyalist I hope you do realize SMB2 was exactly the same as SMB1 except harder. What americans know as SMB 2 is doki doki panic with Mario skins thrown in for good measure. 

 

Hey, in case you didn't know (and you don't seem to) 'Castlevania Symphony of the Night' was actually a total rip-off of Metroid (though a great game none the less) which is a nintendo franchise!

I would have thought someone who seems to be so knowledgible in the history of video games would know that!

You sure it wasn't just an improved version of the formula of Castlevania 2?  Come on guys.  Nintendo is great.  But not all video game ideas originate from them. 

EXACTLY, it's funny how everything has to originate from either Zelda, Mario and Metroid somehow some way, and how Miyamoto is god. It is the same thing over and over again with the Wii fan base. Seems they have forgotten about Castlevania 1 then Castlevania 2 Simon's Quest which tried to be different. SOTN incorporated elements from both those games and stayed true to the franchise. Hell we can also say that Ninty took alot of their ideas from C64 and Atari 2600. Remember pitfall? remember the C64 popeye game ported to the NES? lol. 

So as he stated no, SOTN didn't ripoff Metroid, it simply took from it's own set of games and improved upon the formula and made a masterpiece that many publications and sites consider SOTN to be in its own league.



Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)

I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/  hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.

demonfox13 on 03 January 2010
ssj12 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Lastgengamer said:

http://connectedconsoles.com/ps3-Kojima-to-return-to-PS3-thanks-to-Modern-Warfare-2.cfm

Modern Warfare 2 has inspired Kojima

Hideo Kojima is probably the most legendary game developer in the business.

What about Shigeru Miyamoto? He developed the Mario and the Zelda series. MGS is afterall, only a 4 game series, no matter how good it is, and Miyamoto changed the ways 2d games were played with Mario and Zelda, and then he...invented the way 3d games are played with Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time. Most recently, he's changed the ways gaming will be played in the future with Wii Fit, and his contribution to motion controls which ALL consoles are now fully adopting.

Kojima is an epic developer but probably IS NOT the most legendary game developer in the business, as long as Miyamoto is around, imho.

the metal gear franchise is not only 4 games, and he has created several other AMAZING games. Miyamoto only seems capable of mostly only mario and Wii titled games.

Seems people also forget the Z.O.E games. Especially the 2nd Runner which is in a league of its own both in gameplay and storytelling. I did find Dingo to be a very likeable character too.



Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)

I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/  hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.

outlawauron on 03 January 2010

Come on now, the idea that Kojima being a better developer than Miyamoto is just laughable. Looking at entire careers, I have a time believing some people think this.



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

Check out MyAnimeList and my Game Collection. Owner of the 5 millionth post.

ssj12 on 03 January 2010
outlawauron said:
Come on now, the idea that Kojima being a better developer than Miyamoto is just laughable. Looking at entire careers, I have a time believing some people think this.

frankly, Miyamoto isnt that great. He is mostly a one trick pony that people doesnt seem to get sick of.He isnt in the same league as John Carmack, Sid Meyers, Gabe Newell, or any of the other highly respected leaders in the industry. To put things lightly, most indie developers make better and more innovative games then Miyamoto has in over a decade.



PC gaming is better than console gaming. Always.     We are Anonymous, We are Legion    Kick-ass interview   Great Flash Series Here    Anime Ratings     Make and Play Please
Amazing discussion about being wrong
Official VGChartz Folding@Home Team #109453
 
demonfox13 on 03 January 2010
ssj12 said:
outlawauron said:
Come on now, the idea that Kojima being a better developer than Miyamoto is just laughable. Looking at entire careers, I have a time believing some people think this.

frankly, Miyamoto isnt that great. He is mostly a one trick pony that people doesnt seem to get sick of.He isnt in the same league as John Carmack, Sid Meyers, Gabe Newell, or any of the other highly respected leaders in the industry. To put things lightly, most indie developers make better and more innovative games then Miyamoto has in over a decade.

Careful, I smell the Wii bandwagon parking here and getting ready to bash you and me both for speaking the truth :p.



Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)

I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/  hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.