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BladeOfGod said:
"easy and available for masses"

Yes, just like when they decided to charge 70$ for online play

$70? you were ripped off then as you can get a year for less than $30 if you look around.....



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FKNetwork said:
Jinova said:
FKNetwork said:
Very well deserved, another best of the decade winner in less than a week for the 360!, shows just how much the 360 has changed the console gaming world, expecting to see many more awards like this in the coming weeks.

Ps3, Wii, PS2 did nothing to change gaming, the 360 made huge changes making online gaming the standard along with many more innovations.

Well done!

The Wii did nothing to change gaming?  How can anyone take you seriously after a statement like that?

Ok then, what exactly has the Wii done for gaming apart from being popular and bringing motion controls to the masses (motion controls were out before the wii), have a think and let me know lol

The motion controls cannot be ignored. MS and Sony are trying get a piece of that pie with their own motion control schemes. That alone changes the way games will be developed, that is huge dude.

It cant be denied that MS has tried to copy Nintendo's casual gaming library. 1 VS 100?  Whole disc collections based on casual gaming. 

 The Wii has gotten many people into gaming that wouldnt normally pick up a controller. Who knows, some of those people might turn out to be hardcore gamers, or at least give more traditional games a try. 

I do agree with your shovelware statement though.  Too many "wii sports clones" flooding the market.



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FKNetwork said:

The Wii bought motion controls to the masses, that is it, just because the Wii is popular doesn't mean it changed gaming,

The 360 bought online gaming to the masses, that is it, just because the 360 is popular doesn't mean it changed gaming,



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Jinova said:

The motion controls cannot be ignored. MS and Sony are trying get a piece of that pie with their own motion control schemes. That alone changes the way games will be developed, that is huge dude.

It cant be denied that MS has tried to copy Nintendo's casual gaming library. 1 VS 100?  Whole disc collections based on casual gaming. 

 The Wii has gotten many people into gaming that wouldnt normally pick up a controller. Who knows, some of those people might turn out to be hardcore gamers, or at least give more traditional games a try. 

I do agree with your shovelware statement though.  Too many "wii sports clones" flooding the market.

If you want to bring up things as not being innovations, please do not bring up 1 vs 100.  The server infrastructure necessary to handle 200,000 simultaneous(playing the exact same game instance) requests within milliseconds of each other is quite impressive.  What MS is doing with Primetime is something that no one else has done.



I would put the DC, Wii or PS2 over either one personally. Great systems no doubt but not really earth shattering like those 3. At the same time the PS3 while also great doesn't really deserve to be on the list either.



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JaggedSac said:
Jinova said:

The motion controls cannot be ignored. MS and Sony are trying get a piece of that pie with their own motion control schemes. That alone changes the way games will be developed, that is huge dude.

It cant be denied that MS has tried to copy Nintendo's casual gaming library. 1 VS 100?  Whole disc collections based on casual gaming. 

 The Wii has gotten many people into gaming that wouldnt normally pick up a controller. Who knows, some of those people might turn out to be hardcore gamers, or at least give more traditional games a try. 

I do agree with your shovelware statement though.  Too many "wii sports clones" flooding the market.

If you want to bring up things as not being innovations, please do not bring up 1 vs 100.  The server infrastructure necessary to handle 200,000 simultaneous(playing the exact same game instance) requests within milliseconds of each other is quite impressive.  What MS is doing with Primetime is something that no one else has done.

i guess MAG is innovative as well than?



FKNetwork said:
BladeOfGod said:
"easy and available for masses"

Yes, just like when they decided to charge 70$ for online play

$70? you were ripped off then as you can get a year for less than $30 if you look around.....

my point still stands. why would i pay for something that i can get for free on PS3 and Wii?



BladeOfGod said:
JaggedSac said:

If you want to bring up things as not being innovations, please do not bring up 1 vs 100.  The server infrastructure necessary to handle 200,000 simultaneous(playing the exact same game instance) requests within milliseconds of each other is quite impressive.  What MS is doing with Primetime is something that no one else has done.

i guess MAG is innovative as well than?

MAG is 256 players, 1vs100 is over 200,000 connected at the same time, MAG doesn't sound so good now does it......



FKNetwork said:
BladeOfGod said:
JaggedSac said:

If you want to bring up things as not being innovations, please do not bring up 1 vs 100.  The server infrastructure necessary to handle 200,000 simultaneous(playing the exact same game instance) requests within milliseconds of each other is quite impressive.  What MS is doing with Primetime is something that no one else has done.

i guess MAG is innovative as well than?

MAG is 256 players, 1vs100 is over 200,000 connected at the same time, MAG doesn't sound so good now does it......

Thanks.  Took the words from my mouth.



BladeOfGod said:
FKNetwork said:

$70? you were ripped off then as you can get a year for less than $30 if you look around.....

my point still stands. why would i pay for something that i can get for free on PS3 and Wii?

You pay for what you get, I would much rather pay for Xbox live as I get a quality service that I LOVE using, PSN on the other hand, I hardly ever use it and it's free! free isn't always best as clearly seen with PSN and the Wii online features lol.

I'm happy paying for Xbox Live just like the 15 million other Xbox Live Gold users, it's a quality service that always stays ahead of the competition, its the free services always trying to play catch up....