Hisiru said: MRFENIX said: XiaoMay said: The ds wins the poll stop being senseless... Hd systems have like 5 rpg each when ds has 100... DS might have 100 "rpg:s" but 360 needs only 2 rpg:s to beat the entire DS library. ME (2) and Dragon age: origins >>>>> everything ds has to offer.   I had more fun playing TWEWY, Soma Bringer, Bowser's Inside Story and Devil Survivor than playing Dragon Age on my PC. Sure Dragon Age has much more depht, but if you will have fun with the game or not will depend of your taste. Also, I prefer any DQ on the DS than Dragon Age (PC version, I don't know about the x360 or ps3 version) just because of the storyline and difficulty. All I can say about Dragon Age is that it's an incredible game but it was boring for me.

That's cool. You can enjoy whatever games you happen to like the most. But to call people senseless because they vote for anything else than DS is pretty lame.

jonnhytesta said: MRFENIX said: XiaoMay said: The ds wins the poll stop being senseless... Hd systems have like 5 rpg each when ds has 100... DS might have 100 "rpg:s" but 360 needs only 2 rpg:s to beat the entire DS library. ME (2) and Dragon age: origins >>>>> everything ds has to offer.   those are multiplat. lets say Lost Odyssey and Tales of Vesperia(but thats multiplat now).

I prefer 2D Tales games (like Tales of Hearts), the gameplay is more fun for me. It's like Mortal Kombat 2D vs Mortal Kombat 3D, some people dislike 3D MKs but still playing the 2D games.

MRFENIX said: Hisiru said: MRFENIX said: XiaoMay said: The ds wins the poll stop being senseless... Hd systems have like 5 rpg each when ds has 100... DS might have 100 "rpg:s" but 360 needs only 2 rpg:s to beat the entire DS library. ME (2) and Dragon age: origins >>>>> everything ds has to offer.   I had more fun playing TWEWY, Soma Bringer, Bowser's Inside Story and Devil Survivor than playing Dragon Age on my PC. Sure Dragon Age has much more depht, but if you will have fun with the game or not will depend of your taste. Also, I prefer any DQ on the DS than Dragon Age (PC version, I don't know about the x360 or ps3 version) just because of the storyline and difficulty. All I can say about Dragon Age is that it's an incredible game but it was boring for me. That's cool. You can enjoy whatever games you happen to like the most. But to call people senseless because they vote for anything else than DS is pretty lame.

Well, I agree with you.

Carl2291 said: dunno001 said: Carl2291 said: themanwithnoname said: Carl2291 said: themanwithnoname said: I like how carl managed to throw in the PS1 and maybe the PS2 back catalog in for the PS3, but ignored the original Xbox for the 360 entirely. Because it had 24 RPG's, with only 4/5 worth mentioning... So it was pretty pointless. Compare that to the 178 on PS1, and the 251 on PS2... Yes? And for someone who hates JRPGs and loves WRPGs, just about all of the 251 titles on the PS2 are pointless, so I still don't see how you can ignore the original Xbox. Because i was backing up the PS3, not the 360? Thank you carl, for giving me the perfect example of bias. It is obviously not something that can be eliminated, as per the human error equation. It can be minimized, but this shows that some people don't even try. If one were to attempt to be unbiased, then it would require an objective look at things, that is, not backing one particular system. If one clearly disregards something on one system while acknowledging (and surmising, in the case of PS2) it on another, that is bias. So step back. Different people will see different things. I can see people voting for the 360 because of the best mix of JRPG and WRPG. I can see people voting for the DS (like I did) for the sheer number of games. I can see Wii for those who like the old-style JRPGs that are on the VC. Then we get down to the PSP/PS3. Both can play the PS1 classics from PSN, so that leaves no sway. So it comes to the native games, of which there are more on the PSP, and I could even see the PSP getting votes in general for the sheer number and ratio of SRPGs on it. So I can't really see the PS3 from how I'm looking. I'm not saying that there are no good RPGs for it (Demon's Souls is an amazing game), just that the numbers and total quality seem to be eclipsed by other systems. Twisting my view, I can see people picking the PS3 on a different clause- the access to the entire PS1 library (though I still think the DS one is better). But there are fewer outlets to buy PS1 games, so if you start looking at OOP system games, then you also have to fairly look at XBox for the 360, GBA for the DS (and actually, some stores do still have used GBA games), and GC for the Wii. PS2 games should not be looked at because someone who is looking to buy a system for RPGs can not walk into a store and buy a PS3 capabe of playing PS2 games. Then we have the other argument I've seen used- the... "less scrupulous..." means. I do know emulation of most of the older systems exists on every system except the PS3. (I'm not sure if it has been found to play NES games, etc, on the PS3 or not, if so, then all the more moot the point is.) If you're going to look at one system for doing it (which seems to be high among PC and PSP fans), then you need to look at all that are capable. And at that point, you've washed them all into nothing, as they're all doing it. And so is why we don't see many throughly objective views on the votes here. Some of the the votes do get enough thought to make a decent decision, but the others are voted on through sheer bias. Such is the fallacy of humans, and also explains why you see that little line about them not being scientific surveys at some sites. I just find it a shame to see such a lean here toward the bias, and not the thoughtful votes. Again, I'm not saying that every PS3 vote is through bias, but there are some that clearly are. Too much to read, so im just gonna reply to the red bit. Read the conversation me and kowen were having, and you will see why i was backing up just the PS3.

I'm not intending to go after you (and I do apologize for not making that clear in the beginning), rather, you gave me the perfect springboard to go off of to show how bias factors into the equation. Stepping away from things allows for a reasonable argument to be made for most cases. What it comes down to is how many make which argument. I can see both sides of it (JRPG vs WRPG), and the merits to both cases. The exact way that it's going about though, does seem rather foolish.

So basically, DS and PC are the best platforms for RPGs. Thread over.

jarrod said: So basically, DS and PC are the best platforms for RPGs. Thread over.

this thread is just for people to speak their minds on what they think is the best, there is no right answer. 

DS me thinks.

DS and it's not even close. I can't believe that so many people are voting for the PS3. Scratch that, VGChartz.com, why do I not remember which site I'm on sometimes?

CommonMan said: DS and it's not even close. I can't believe that so many people are voting for the PS3. Scratch that, VGChartz.com, why do I not remember which site I'm on sometimes?

Maybe the reason is that DS is a portable, a JRPG hardcore fan will need a home console too...

A Sony bias would have given unnaturally high PSP results too, a Nintendo bias would have given higher Wii results, but what we have is high DS and PS3, average XB360, perfectly explainable as PC, that wasn't choosable, is favoured by many WRPG fans, and everything else low.

well in my order for the RPG's I have for the systems listed are
DS
PSP
Xbox 360
PS3(would be first if I count my PS2 games with it)
Wii

though it looks like the PS3 will have a stellar year for RPGs, so much so I must make my list:
Final Fantasy XIII
Star Ocean 4: International
White Knight Chronicles
Last Rebellion
3D Dot Heroes
Ar Tonelico 3
Resonace of fate
Tales of Vesperia(possibly)

bring on 2010