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For the people who think a FFVII remake wouldn't suck. Just look at all the other FFVII media especially Advent Children. I like to pretend that movie never existed :(
Classics should never be remade!



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dobby985 said:
For the people who think a FFVII remake wouldn't suck. Just look at all the other FFVII media especially Advent Children. I like to pretend that movie never existed :(
Classics should never be remade!

I know a lot of peoples (myself included) that liked advent children a lot tho.



I actually think the new music works quite well with the atmosphere the original had. FFVII makes me think cyberpunk, and the metal music works IMO. I think Crisis Core did a good job of retaining the nostalgic feel and atmosphere of FFVII whilst adding in new game mechanics and improvements. And some of the best games Square Enix has released this gen have been the superbly done remakes. So I respectfully disagree, it could be a big mistake and it could turn out terrible, but I think it's more likely to turn out well.



So what you're saying is.. Final Fantasy VII Remake is going to suck because it's going to use FFXIII's engine?



Pixel Art can be fun.

dobby985 said:
For the people who think a FFVII remake wouldn't suck. Just look at all the other FFVII media especially Advent Children. I like to pretend that movie never existed :(
Classics should never be remade!

I enjoyed Advent Children because it was how a CG movie should be, showing all the stuff you can't do with real actors :P To be honest, the movie wasn't as great as it could have, but the Advent Children complete on Blu Ray makes a lot more sense and adds in extras to the story so it seems less like one action sequence leading on to the next.

Also, Crisis Core was great and received good reviews, so not all FFVII related material has been bad. Dirge of Ceberus on the other hand...



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Akvod said:
shinsa said:

its sad but it is true, thats how media is. they must sell out in order to be succesfull just look at the wii!

i do agree again that alot of teens/nerds get blinded by the overly cheesy epic or badass idea of things and that games need to move foward in terms of its atmosphare and story.

you see i do agree with you in some asspects but in order to even create an updated verson of the game it needs some essentials but since games cost so much to develop they need to sell out.

IDK, J-E-N-O-V-A can't be messed with:

 

Ugh....that rock remix crap of J-E-N-O-V-A is terrible. Too many guitars blaring all at the same time, its a mess. The song is trying too hard to be a badass reincarnation. At the beginning (first 15 seconds) I was like oh man, this is what I'm talking about. Then that opening melody fell victim to a crescendo of guitars. It buries the good sound under nonsense.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

There will be no FFVII remake, though. I'm almost certain of it.

By the way, were you being sarcastic?



 

 

 

 

 

man some of you fanboys really kill the idea of a remake...
open to nothing...

there is nothing wrong with a remake, the game has to be nostalgic but has to offer something new while updating it. I'm sure this remake is for the fans but i hope that new comers that didnt get a chance to play FF7 can get there turn.

using the old music wont do....sorry fanboys i know you love the soundtrack (i do to) but for a remake it needs an update. Some can agree or disagree towards the heavy/ rock songs but the orchestrated songs are far more better composed with better sound quality then the original.

Honestly if i wanted to play the same old gameplay, listen to the same composed and quality of a soundtrack, watch the same cutscenes and read the same script then why should there even be a remake? why im i wasting my time and money?



w00t, my first post here (and I'm sure I'll make a bad first impression )

I must say that I mostly agree with what OP has said; the evidence from the way Squeenix has been taking FF in general, and FF7 in particular, since the merger, suggests that a FF7 remake will be disappointing for many of its older fans for the reasons given. I won't say whether the compilation or the recent games have actually been bad (although that's certainly my opinion), but they have received a very "mixed" reaction from fans; a lot of people are concerned about where the series is going.

It's true that Squeenix have managed to put out some rather nice remakes of the older games in the past few years, but it would be unwise to infer anything about a FF7 remake from those. They have been fairly small and unambitious (I don't mean this in a bad way) remakes of games that didn't have a big fanbase, they've been for handhelds and they've been expected to get rather modest sales by FF standards. They've also been remakes of 2D games rather than 3D, so it's been much easier for Square to make the games seem like a major revamp without doing anything that would alienate anyone but the strictest traditionalists. Just making them 3D changes a lot. A FF7 remake would almost certainly be very different, since it would be aimed at a much broader market and would be expected to be a game that pushes everything to its limits.

I feel that, for the purpose of argument, we should take the saying "room for improvement" literally FF7 is, we can all agree, one of the most beloved games ever made (it's also one of the most hated). Whether that means it's actually one of the best isn't important; what matters is that it's the best in a lot of people's minds. This means that, for those fans, there is very little room for improvement. When there is plenty of room, something can be improved quite easily, but when there is little room, it's much harder to improve things and much, much easier to mess things up; one has to be very careful when everything's in a delicate balance. Squeenix will have to be careful as well, if they want to avoid pissing off a lot of fans.

It's certainly true that any major changes in gameplay are likely to incite a bloody uprising amongst traditionalists (although I would cream my pants if Squeenix remade the game with a harder difficulty mode), but there are even risks to tweaking the things that most people would think have the most room for improvement. Redoing the graphics isn't as straightforward as it might seem. The graphics in the Compilation, and especially in Advent Children, have been much more than a simple upscaling of the original game's graphics; there is a very different change in visual style. The male characters are a lot more feminine looking, Tifa is a lot more "natural" looking and the colour scheme has changed from psychedelia to black & white (I think, and I know I'm not alone in this, that the deep rich colours are one of the things that made the original special; they make the feeling of the game much "warmer" and make the world seem very "alive", even if they aren't very natural). Squeenix would also have to choose between keeping chibi characters and using normal sized ones (and we all know that they'll choose). I spend most of my forum time at a place where improvements to FF7 are discussed quite a lot, and there's actually a quite even split between people who like the chibis and people who like the proportioned models. This isn't just nostalgia either; humans are programmed to empathise more towards cute things, so it would make sense if those silly looking characters actually made fans connect more strongly to them than normal ones would have. Of course, there are some people who don't feel that way as well. Anyway, there'll be controversy with whatever choice Squeenix make.

Now, let's say that Square actually did manage to keep all of the fans happy. Let's say that they kept everything we love about the gameplay and made use of technology to give us options with the graphics (such as whether to use chibi or full sized models, in the same way that some games let you choose how much blood there'll be) and the sound (such as whether to have English voice acting, Japanese voice acting or even none). It won't happen, but let's pretend it might. Here's where it goes into hard mode for Squeenix: the critics would hate it for not being innovative enough. Srsly. Critics and fans often look for different things in a game; the 40/40 that Famitsu gave to FF12 shows that. If Squeenix made the perfect remake from the fans' POV, it would be panned by the critics.

I think that my post has deviated from its original point (was there an original point? ), and is already very tl;dr, so I'll just sum everything up by saying this: whatever Squeenix do, someone is going to be disappointed, and if they try to avoid disappointing anyone (which they probably will), they'll disappoint everyone. I actually feel quite sorry for them in a way.



Most remakes do this. Look at pokemon they improved everything. I mean ya some music remixed could have been better but overall pokemon gets better and better. Alotho i cant say which is better because i love both say like Red and Fire Red. And the new one that came out Soul/Heart will be amazing to. So dont get drawn down to thinking FFVII will suck because if people want it enough (and we no they do) they Square and the team thats hired will do there absolute best to bring the game with no changes in the story at all!