I had a box of Japanese mandarin oranges... Does that count as owning the orange box?

 He played it on 360.  And yes, TF2 on 360 is a gimped experience in my opinion. 

I love me some 360, but with only 16 players max, and the dual analog controls, it's a much slower game, and it probably seems pointless.

I know that when there's only 8 players on each team instead of 12...it definitely makes some difference...there's simply more of each class when there's more players...I do think 32 players is too much for TF2 though...I never play on 32 man servers.

And I do think this game is more fun with a mouse...it allows for more accuracy and speed...definitely needed for scouts, snipers, soldiers, whatever. 

I've only seen videos, but from what I've seen, 360 TF2 players tend to aim less and strafe more, like trying to aim as close to their enemy as possible with the right analog stick, and then strafing with the left stick to get the shot lined up.  Definitely makes things slower and less fun.

As a whole package, the Orange Box is the GOTY. You got one of the greatest games of all time (HL 2), its two sequels (one decent, one great), Team Fortress 2 (the best online shhoter in my opinion since BF2) and Portal, the best puzzle adventure game in years and maybe the funniest game ever? That inludes the last Zelda and Metroid games as far as puzzle adventures go).

I also disagree with the whole 360 version of TF2 being gimped. The only thing gimped about it are the server issues and that's not the game's fault.

The Orange Box also has the best Achievements system of anything on the 360. With all that said, I can't call OB the game of the year because I have to consider each game on its own. Still the best value in videogames ever in my opinion and on less packed years TF2 and Portal would both be GOTY candidates of mine like last year for example.

I can't even imagine trying to play TF2 with analog sticks. I guess since everyone is using them, it would be fair, but... I still can't imagine doing 3/4 of the things I can do in TF2 on the PC. Maybe it's still fun in a different way, but I like my TF fast and furious.

I mean...it's a legitimate complaint...it really does change the game.

If you watch the video, you'll notice he hardly ever checks behind him or far to his sides. I assume you could if you were trying to be careful, but most players probably don't because it takes too long to turn around. He got killed by an Engineer in the red base because he wasn't watching his side...it's a lot easier to do so on PC.

I mean...Scouts must be worthless in this game, because they're all about hopping around an enemy and either laying down the scatter gun fire or a bat...but in order to do that, you need quick controls to stay on target.

Meh.

Yeah, I only watched the first two minutes, but I noticed he had tunnel vision, which will get you killed really fast. And yeah, you can't just flick the mouse to look. Also, when he was trying to take out that sentry gun on the desk, he took like half an hour lining up his shot, and actually shot himself in the face with a rocket. That's the kind of thing you could do instantly with a mouse that ends up taking forever with analog sticks, and even if the other sentry hadn't killed him, that engineer would have respawned and shot him in the back. TF is just too fast-paced to play without a mouse.

I personally hate analogue sticks but it actually doesn't bother me in TF2 for some reason.

I got the OB on a trade in where the guy was about to sell it back to GS but I paid him $30 in cash instead. I should be able to trade it back to GS for the full $30 now, actually...