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Forums - Gaming - IGN.com Reviews Bayonetta - MAJOR Score Difference!

Pristine20 on 22 December 2009
MasterHien said:
WOW... whoever ported it to the PS3 must of flopped badly..
I was hoping to get this game but after this review from IGN...
i guess i will wait for another game instead

This. looks like a skip or perhaps if the price of the ps3 version drops really quick as I would hope, I'll get it for $20



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BoneyBoy on 22 December 2009

They shoulda let Naughty Dog do the port. They would make it much better



libellule on 22 December 2009

funny the PS3 owners not buying the game despite the 8.2 score ..



Time to Work !

Pristine20 on 22 December 2009
libellule said:
funny the PS3 owners not buying the game despite the 8.2 score ..

what's funny about people not wanting to buy a game with so many technical issues? It certainly was on my wishlist and I'll still buy it someday but not anytime soon.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

ajaghvajagh on 22 December 2009

360 it is then



 

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Dno on 22 December 2009
CommonMan said:
BMaker11 said:
CommonMan said:
thismeintiel said:
Cypher1980 said:
This is getting silly......

I am starting to think that the LAZY DEVS argument just doesnt hold water any more.

It seems that unless the game is designed ground up with the PS3 in mind then its going to run better on the 360.

After 3 years this should not be the case

Im starting to think that the original argument that the Cell was good at everything so long as its not videogames may be true.

Pour shame.

How can the lazy dev argument no longer hold water, or the Cell be horrible for gaming?  Have you missed all the great exclusives for PS3 recently?  Are all the multi-plats that have recently had little to no difference in quality between 360 and PS3?  Of course, it's because of lazy developers.  Just like if there's an exclusive or even multi-plat that is bad on 360, as well.  Is that the 360's fault?  Hardly.  Lazy developer syndrome again.  Heck if you look at some of Sega's personal efforts as of late, it should be come as little surprise. 

 I just hope that the rumors of Sony helping out on this one are true, and we get a patch that improves things.  Having said that, though, I didn't really notice a problem with the demo.  Seemed to run smoothly in battle, and noticed very little load time when pausing.  Who knows, it might just be IGN making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I do think that Sony needs to take a little bit of heat for making a system that runs off of a processer that may be a little too complex. It's not even necessarily that every developer is lazy. What they do have is a limited amount of assets to work with, and may have gone too high just making the game on the lead platfrom (which, when you think about it, it's always first done on a PC), then they have to use a skeleton crew working on a skeleton budget to port it, and can't afford to hire out Naughty Dog who knows how to use the processor. I don't think that "lazy developers" are as common as fanboys would like to think.

For companies to only have "limited assets/resources" everytime it comes to PS3 development.....they sure have put out a lot of PS3 games this generation.

I mean, if these companies were so crippled by "limited assets", why would Valkyria Chronicles be exclusive? Why was The Club equal on both platforms? Why is Yakuza 3, Kenzan, and 4 exclusive to PS3? Resonance of Fate? AvP? Alpha Protocol? Hell, the first game they made for this generation of consoles was Virtua Fighter 5, and that was PS3 exclusive at the time of release. If Sega was so broke, and their assets are so limited....why are they even making PS3 games???!!!!

/sarcasm

So what you're saying is that there could never be an alternate reason for an unequal port, that the only reason is that the devs are "lazy"? Money could never have anything to do with it, nor could dev time or time that personnel are available? Do you have a counter argument or are you just "owning" me as Dno said?

i think what he was trying to say is "lazy" is about 80% of the reason. prolly not the full reason but a lot of it. with all those games under segas belt its kind of shocking that they floped this game up.

the other 20% being ps3 is much different to program for.



CommonMan on 22 December 2009
Dno said:
CommonMan said:
BMaker11 said:
 

For companies to only have "limited assets/resources" everytime it comes to PS3 development.....they sure have put out a lot of PS3 games this generation.

I mean, if these companies were so crippled by "limited assets", why would Valkyria Chronicles be exclusive? Why was The Club equal on both platforms? Why is Yakuza 3, Kenzan, and 4 exclusive to PS3? Resonance of Fate? AvP? Alpha Protocol? Hell, the first game they made for this generation of consoles was Virtua Fighter 5, and that was PS3 exclusive at the time of release. If Sega was so broke, and their assets are so limited....why are they even making PS3 games???!!!!

/sarcasm

So what you're saying is that there could never be an alternate reason for an unequal port, that the only reason is that the devs are "lazy"? Money could never have anything to do with it, nor could dev time or time that personnel are available? Do you have a counter argument or are you just "owning" me as Dno said?

i think what he was trying to say is "lazy" is about 80% of the reason. prolly not the full reason but a lot of it. with all those games under segas belt its kind of shocking that they floped this game up.

the other 20% being ps3 is much different to program for.

Thanks for answering my question in a pleasant manner. I guess the biggest question I have is what does "lazy" mean? I just don't get it, I mean if they're putting it on the other machine, what makes it look or play less well? I guess I don't understand the process well enough. I just think that it seems weird that so many publishers would put out something that they can't be proud of. It doesn't make any sense to me. I feel that money has to have something to do with it, it almost always has something to do with anything.



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V-r0cK on 22 December 2009
libellule said:
funny the PS3 owners not buying the game despite the 8.2 score ..

Not me im still buying it. 

Its IGN and pulling the same stuff they said about the Orange Box.  Any PS3 owner that has a copy of the Orange Box for PS3 knows that the PS3 port wasnt even near as bad as what IGN claimed it to be.

And since when does a game around 8.2 not get sales?  Assume the 360 didnt even have this game, and that the PS3 version is the only version/exclusive, would the 8.2 score really make people lose interest in it?  Some are quick to decide just cause of one reviewer, and blindly putting their decision on IGN alone making many of you PS3 owners turn away simply because "the 360 version is better".  Did you not forget Famitsu gave the PS3 version 38/40? But no, only IGN score seems to matter right? 

Dont let a single reviewer decide your game choices, if you played the PS3 demo and liked it then IGN's got nothing on you, if you didnt like the demo well thats good, you decided on your own cause you actually played it and sample the PS3 version.  If you want reviewers/scores to decide your gaming decisions at least wait for like an overall metacritic score.



Catlana on 22 December 2009

I enjoyed the Bayonette demo quite a bit. I will be buying the game on the 360. Most games simply work better on the lead design platform.

Imho, to do a proper port takes considerable time. Either the developer waits awhile on the Port to be finished before or pushes the port too soon. Most devs simply are not allowed enough time for proper ports.



Flame on 22 December 2009

I was going to get this on Xbox anyways but the difference looks horrible. 2 of my friends are getting the PS3 version sadly even though one of them owns an Xbox.