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bimmylee said:
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Home to a higher unemployment rate than its graduation rate.

 

 

Thanks to fuckheads buying Japanese import cars instead of supporting American car companies. Detroit has always relied on the auto industry so they are really screwed up now.

Then make better cars?

Exactly. The CEOs at Ford, GM, and Chrysler have been getting filthy rich off of all the Americans who have bought their shit cars for decades, and people finally had enough of it. GM and Chrysler totally deserved to go bankrupt, I'm astonished that they got bailed out. If you can't make a product to compete with, then get the hell out of the market; we are capitalists here, after all.

Just to echo this statement:

'Imports' are not exactly imports anymore. Due to the demand of foreign-designed cars, they have located much of their factories in the United States. Honda, for example, has many plants in Ohio - we have a Honda plant located in my small town of 13,000 people. My buddy makes more money than a lot of people in my town at the Honda plant, despite being non-union.

With the big 3, it is not just the upper management - it is the union employees too. Due to how the unions work, bad employees are retained longer than they should be, creating inefficencies and raising costs for cars (costs that foreign companies don't have). That is why Ford is becoming what GM and Crysler weren't - they hired outside help (the former CEO of Toyota) and began to revamp their line. Guess what? Ford is now far more competitive, and didn't need the bailout money which is keeping bad CEOs, managers, and employees at bad jobs.

And now for the kicker:

The most American car, in terms of materials and labor used to build it is the Toyota Camary.



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BTW, the second Cleveland video is much, much better than the first:

Clevland 'We're Not Detroit!'



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Well I know where they are going to film the Fallout movie.



Boneitis said:
Well I know where they are going to film the Fallout movie.

Fallout Movie Director: "Jimmy! Get over here and have someone clear out these stree. . . oh, never mind."

 



CommonMan said:
Boneitis said:
Well I know where they are going to film the Fallout movie.

Fallout Movie Director: "Jimmy! Get over here and have someone clear out these stree. . . oh, never mind."

 

Actually....

It's already been done. The remake of 'Red Dawn' was filmed in Detroit as the post-invasion city of Seattle where the city has been decimated, and businesses have been renovated by the Communists.

Detroit is indeed the closest place to film a movie about the destruction of America, ha ha.

I predict much future success for Detroit if they hire the entire city out for post-apocalyptic movies, and hire the homeless slummies as extras or 'survivors of the nuclear holocaust' - they already have the dress for it!



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Boneitis said:
Well I know where they are going to film the Fallout movie.

Well there are still plenty of options, many of which you would be less likely to be shot while filiming a movie

http://weburbanist.com/2008/07/06/20-abandoned-cities-and-towns/

 



I find it hilarious that he acts like its purely leftism that has decimated Detroit. I didn't watch to the end of the video but did he mention white flight and the effect of the automotive industries outsourcing away from Detroit?

Those to me are the most obvious reasons for the urban decay in Detroit.



damkira said:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/architecture/detroit.asp

The slums are a part of Manila, Philippines..

but I agree that the government should buy vast amounts of these abandoned houses and turn them into projects. There are a lot of homeless people in the U.S. and it seems to make perfect sense to put them there.

 

I knew that first slum picture couldn't have been Detroit. It had palm trees in the background...

 

But on topic, yeah, Detroit has been pretty messed up. The Silverdome being sold for an amount that a trio of regular middle-class homeowners could have paid for with some pretty simple loans (only around $500k for a building that cost $50 million to put together)

 

When the rest of the country's housing market comes back, though, people might start looking at Detroit again. $100 for a home, even if it needs thousands of dollars in renovation, is still a steal. The laws of economics should balance it out, but you need significant demand to accrue in other parts of the country to do it, which could take a while.



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Rath said:
I find it hilarious that he acts like its purely leftism that has decimated Detroit. I didn't watch to the end of the video but did he mention white flight and the effect of the automotive industries outsourcing away from Detroit?

Those to me are the most obvious reasons for the urban decay in Detroit.

Yes, white flight and the racial tensions ravaged Detroit. Also, and this is often never considered when discussing the decline of Detroit, the freeways-specifically, I-75-ravaged Detroit. They carved the city into many pieces. The tax base was destroyed, historic neighborhoods were divided, and it facilitated the white exodus from the city. Detroit's decline is the result of a confluence of many unfortunate occurrences.



Rath said:
I find it hilarious that he acts like its purely leftism that has decimated Detroit. I didn't watch to the end of the video but did he mention white flight and the effect of the automotive industries outsourcing away from Detroit?

Those to me are the most obvious reasons for the urban decay in Detroit.

Those two things were also caused by leftest policies though.


Free Trade and Cross town bussing respectivly.


Or at least Cross town bussing is what caused the "white flight" in cleveland.

Not that it really matters.  Michigan is just a case of politicians promising help then never delivering.