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luisgvm on 19 December 2009
Boutros said:
Alic0004 said:
Boutros: It's also slightly insane, considering twenty seconds of gameplay movies were enough to make it clear to me the combat is quite different from FFX.

That is disappointing though considering FFX had the best combat system in any JRPGs (imo).

for me the best battle system was the one in FFX-2. it was just awesome!!. jeje. but i loved all FFs i have played!!!. FF ftw!!. i will love FF13!!. lets not worry very much guys!. we just have to wait.



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Alic0004 on 19 December 2009
Boutros said:
Alic0004 said:
Boutros: It's also slightly insane, considering twenty seconds of gameplay movies were enough to make it clear to me the combat is quite different from FFX.

That is disappointing though considering FFX had the best combat system in any JRPGs (imo).

 

    Yeah, but it's nothing you didn't know already, unless you've never watched a FFXIII gameplay video.  I liked FFX too, though.  And I was surprised the turn based combat (which was very unusual for a Final Fantasy game) worked as well as it did.



 

fordy on 19 December 2009
dsister44 said:
Two more

Is the long-awaited FF latest work. Graphic boast the PS3's best beauty and beautiful of the enchant all who see event Mobizine. However the game part of essential too rude will be embarrassed. It just comes this enemy is this higher level of difficulty were 仰って developer is simply is enemy of high charge from instantaneous class attack a float, appeared many times. (At least to play 18 time so the only) even when faced difficult because only seem to State abnormal said Blake 持ち込めば who very much combat is easy, but most enemy it assumes balance is that the break to bring enemy and the 雑魚 in one war 5 ~ takes 10 minutes. Long. Place event time 9 percent, operation time 1 percent for the progress of the scenario? Non-open the treasure box event between straight route is a little advanced almost repeating event... that. I recall it been mocked the RPG Xenogears "disk 2枚目 is a sound novel. That favor or story progress degree is the game situation, slow play 18 times in currently still even reader changes freely cannot. Open all of the game system provided in the story, long Grand desirable I even 2 ~ so it takes 30 hours so happy I think many users before painful, and 投げ出す is no will or. Anyway, "ダルい" game is also the length of the battle. (Is that threw in before growth system クリスタリウム is in fact, even if you are...) is reminiscent and good かからなくて development expense and try to play until the end is the thing you bought case corner, but FF next work is another video work is work. They are long time and room is also ride on fashion as PS3 greatest masterpiece may be good.


Play was about 25 hours. Here is the end is 未クリア. Do come to sell now. From reason is not interesting. Story to become nature, do not have color capture, ordinary system. One road RPG well in one (especially was gaming) to become. Certainly face is FF. Beautiful terms, world of the popular. However the contents FF or? and might be NO when asked. This time is not sitting on hand Gil and the balance of the offense and defense time. Also the very limit of HP/MP within the advances random encounter road ドキドキ none at all. It might be good to people not very much depth story beautiful image tens spending time seen you want. The select I would more than 50 times in 20 films to watch. FF13, 溺れた video technology to 5 style RPG is the slash.


First is a two second is a one

I have chortles with this of translation!!



Alic0004 on 19 December 2009

As Soriku said, any big game release is going to meet with a lot of negativity. Particularly on internet forums, where there's a whole circus of different motivations going on underneath the surface.

Once again, current user reviews at Amazon Japan rank the games in this order:

Final Fantasy XIII
Dragon Quest IX
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy X2



 

Crystalchild on 19 December 2009

just take a look at Modern Warfare 2 - same situation now with FFXIII.



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dsister44 on 19 December 2009
fordy said:
dsister44 said:
Two more

Is the long-awaited FF latest work. Graphic boast the PS3's best beauty and beautiful of the enchant all who see event Mobizine. However the game part of essential too rude will be embarrassed. It just comes this enemy is this higher level of difficulty were 仰って developer is simply is enemy of high charge from instantaneous class attack a float, appeared many times. (At least to play 18 time so the only) even when faced difficult because only seem to State abnormal said Blake 持ち込めば who very much combat is easy, but most enemy it assumes balance is that the break to bring enemy and the 雑魚 in one war 5 ~ takes 10 minutes. Long. Place event time 9 percent, operation time 1 percent for the progress of the scenario? Non-open the treasure box event between straight route is a little advanced almost repeating event... that. I recall it been mocked the RPG Xenogears "disk 2枚目 is a sound novel. That favor or story progress degree is the game situation, slow play 18 times in currently still even reader changes freely cannot. Open all of the game system provided in the story, long Grand desirable I even 2 ~ so it takes 30 hours so happy I think many users before painful, and 投げ出す is no will or. Anyway, "ダルい" game is also the length of the battle. (Is that threw in before growth system クリスタリウム is in fact, even if you are...) is reminiscent and good かからなくて development expense and try to play until the end is the thing you bought case corner, but FF next work is another video work is work. They are long time and room is also ride on fashion as PS3 greatest masterpiece may be good.


Play was about 25 hours. Here is the end is 未クリア. Do come to sell now. From reason is not interesting. Story to become nature, do not have color capture, ordinary system. One road RPG well in one (especially was gaming) to become. Certainly face is FF. Beautiful terms, world of the popular. However the contents FF or? and might be NO when asked. This time is not sitting on hand Gil and the balance of the offense and defense time. Also the very limit of HP/MP within the advances random encounter road ドキドキ none at all. It might be good to people not very much depth story beautiful image tens spending time seen you want. The select I would more than 50 times in 20 films to watch. FF13, 溺れた video technology to 5 style RPG is the slash.


First is a two second is a one

I have chortles with this of translation!!

You have what?



perpride on 19 December 2009

The only way anyone in this thread can actually make a claim is to actually play the game. Most of the problems listed in here are not really problems, but things that have been changed.

From what I played in the demo, I am expecting a massive improvement in the battle system at the very least.



Kennyheart on 19 December 2009

Here is my summarization of people's hatred
-too linear (really all FFs are linear, they just have world maps)
-party leader dies, you lose
-no towns (which there are)
-lame battle system (lolwut?)
-no levels, crystarium sucks
-only 6 summons
-crappy monster hunts for sidequests

Most of these are false or actually BETTER! I'm just astoundingly shocked at how someone could hype a game for 4 years (almost) then when ONE THING isn't how they expected they hate it! How the fuck do people like that even enjoy video games? I can't even comprehend this amount of stupidity.I think what disappoints me the most is there are people on there actually listening to these idiots. They are accepting their opinions as facts and they aren't going to buy the game now!

BUY THE GAME and see it for yourself.



Destroyer_of_knights on 19 December 2009
Soriku said:
Destroyer_of_knights said:
Soriku said:
Destroyer_of_knights said:
Soriku said:
Riachu said:
FF games in general are rated this way in Japan. I am suprised Japanese gamers would complain about long cutscenes and linearity. Especially when FFX, arguably the most linear game in the series, is considered the best FF game there. Japanese are suppose to like lengthy cutscenes and linearity. Why is it that stuff like Uncharted 2, various FPS, etc. get away with linearity yet when FF does it, it gets slammed for it?


Because the game's an RPG and RPGs are expected to have open large worlds with a lot town, sidequests, etc. I guess.

That's wester RPG's you talking about mate, JRPG are always linear because they have a controlled story, there may be an odd game or two which try to be open world or give the impression but unlike wester RPG, JRPG are fairly linear.

 

I have to say though, that I smell allot of Ninetnedo trolls here, pitty the mods won't do anything about it cuz their to busy with their hands down the pants fapping off to there fellow fanboys.


What about games like DQ, Pokemon, or Tales? All are pretty open and not always linear and there's tons of stuff to do and various palces to go even early on.

Also, nobody in this thread is a Nintendo fanboy...but you probably don't know most of the users anyway so don't single a group out.

 

I've played them, and their linear, with some open aspect to them once you complete enough of the game like in pokemon when you get the TM FLY, but it is nothing like Wester RPG where they really give you the freedom to explore and take quests, it's still some what linear as well since it has an over arching story it's trying to tell, but when compared to JRPG western RPG's are more way more open world, having said this it doesn't stop the game from being fun.


I mean I've played nearly all pokemon games since the gold version, all of them are identical, it may be a new region but it's the same thing of going from town to town, get 8 gym badges and then poke league, their may be new baddies but they don't affect what you have to do in regards to gyms and stuff, but it's still fun.

lol, dude if you looked at my account then you'd know I've been around for 2 years, I know a fanboy when I smell one, and the only reason I singled them out is because as soon as FF13 came out, the negativity started and now it's degenerated down into linearity which has always been their with JRPGs but now for some reason it's new and we must all bash FF13 for it, if this isn't Nintendo fanboys at work then I have no idea what world you live in.


OK, Western RPGs are more open, but those games I listed are never criticized for linearity.

You've been here 2 years but you don't even have that many posts. Most of the users here I already know and none of them are Nintendo fanboys. Just look at the tags under their avatars and most people own multiple consoles. Also it's expected when a big game comes out there will be some negativity.

Dude, I have an average of 1 post per day, which I think is resonable to know who's who and what's going down, I don't need to spend my life posting just to know the same info.

As for the tags, it just simply tells a person what console that person owns based on their games, it doesn't tell which console that person preferes, some people can own all 3 consoles and still be a fanboy of 1, because at the end of the day we'll still have a preference.

Now I can understand negativity from people who own it, or are thinking of getting it because they own the console, but there are people here that don't want the game, don't own the platform but here they are just flaming the fire of negativity because a) it's not on their platform and b) it looks to have sold very well in japan alone....

As for me, I'll be getting the game, haven't played to many FF games in my time but this one has peaked my interest, to bad I have to wait till next year to be able to get it XD



Boutros on 19 December 2009
Alic0004 said:
Boutros said:
Alic0004 said:
Boutros: It's also slightly insane, considering twenty seconds of gameplay movies were enough to make it clear to me the combat is quite different from FFX.

That is disappointing though considering FFX had the best combat system in any JRPGs (imo).

 

    Yeah, but it's nothing you didn't know already, unless you've never watched a FFXIII gameplay video.  I liked FFX too, though.  And I was surprised the turn based combat (which was very unusual for a Final Fantasy game) worked as well as it did.

I actually didn't watch any videos lol (I don't want to be spoiled)

So I pretty much know nothing about the game but I'm still really hyped for it.