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jarrod on 20 December 2009
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
jarrod said:
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trestres said:
jarrod said: >
3rd party lineup is awesome for 2010, at least in terms of localizations.

Things do seem like they're drying up a bit in Japan, but we're probably good for at least few more big surprises (MH3G, DQ7 remake, Inazuma 11 Break, etc). Weirdly, Japan's really solidified behind WiiWare though, much moreso than XBLA or PSN.

It's bad for the Wii when all of their big games are speculation. I don't think any of those will make it in 2010, well perhaps MH3G, but still doubt it.

Current rumor puts MH3G around May/June, and it's based off the western build.  I think we'll get *something* DQ related next year, be it Swords 2, Torneko 4, Monsters BR, the DQ7 remake or whatever.  And if Inazuma 11 Break doesn't happen next year, I don't think it'll happen at all.  Shame it and Ushihiro got shelved at L5's last conference. :/

Honestly though, after Q1, there aren't really any legitimately big 3rd party 2010 games announced for any platform, not just Wii.  DS, PSP and PS360 are just as dry at this point.

They're working on Dragon Quest X currently.  I don't think we're going to get anything else.  As much as I'd like a Dragon Quest Swords sequel with Motion Controls.  The Dragon Quest team is different than the SquareSide, which is happy to have 10 teamsworking on 20 Final Fantasy ports/sequels.  Instead, Yuji Horii would rather focus on 1-2 games at once.  And really....Dragon Quest VII remake.  Its not going to happen.  Its way too soon after the original game.  And its the least favorite of the series.  And even if it did, its mostly likely not going to happen on a console.

The only rumor for Dragon Quest that has been solid is Sugiyama (yes, the composer) has hinted at a possible new Dragon Quest Monsters in development.

Er, Hori's team (Armor Project) rarely gets directly involved in spinoffs or remakes.  Hell, look just look at DS... within 4 years it got 3 DQ spinoffs, 3 DQ remakes and a full fledged DQ9.  Even PS2 got a remake and 3 spinoffs in addition to DQ8.  PS1 got 2 spinoffs and remake with DQ7.  SFC got DQ5-6, 2 remakes and a spinoff.  You really think Wii will finish off with just one full DQ and one spinoff?

Arte Piazza, Genius Sonority or some other company will head up the inevitable WII DQ7 remake, just watch...

No, that is the complete opposite of how it is.  Armor Project, along with Akira Toriyama and Koichi Sugiyama, are DIRECTLY involved in every Dragon Quest game.  This includes games from the Dragon Quest Monster series to Dragon Quest Swords to the remakes like Dragon Quest IV-VI DS.  That's why the series has such tight quality control, because they don't just outsource it to a different company (such as Genius Sonority and ArtePiazza) and the core team doesn't have a hand in it.  Yuji Horii even had a direct hand in the recent DS remakes by implementing additional content he wanted added that couldn't make it in those games in their original release.

As for this generation, its a complete exception to past generations.  We've already got 2 side games (Dragon Quest Swords and Joker) as well as they're coming up on the third remake (plus two cel phone remakes of Dragon Quest I and III).  And then they spent just shy of FIVE years working on Dragon Quest IX.  Only to begin work instantly on Dragon Quest X.  True, they could be working on another game, like the rumored fifth Dragon Quest Monsters title, but I don't think we're going to get much else this gen.  I mean, 3 DS remakes, 2 side games and 2 main games is already a ton for any series.  Especially when the main games take anywhere from 4-5 years to complete.

Of course there's oversight, but Armor Project only does actual planning for mainline DQ these days.  Genius Sonority handled planning for Swords (with 8ing on development), Arte Piazza for the PS2/DS remakes (with Matrix and Cattle Call on development) and they let TOSE handle the Slime Morimori and Monsters games almost entirely.    The only spinoffs that Armor Project had a more direct hand in were Think Garage's Itadaki Street crossovers and (I think?) cavia's Shonen Yangus.

Also, there's always been tons of remakes and spinoffs on the side.  In the PS1 era we had DQ1-3 on GBC, plus DQM1-2.  In the PS2 era wer got Torneko 2-3 on GBA, Slime Morimori 1, DQM Caravan Heart and a TON of mobile ports and spinoffs (DQI-II, Monsters, Fushigino Dungeon, etc).

There's much more than enough manpower between all the developers involved in DQ to squeeze out another remake for Wii.  And I wouldn't expect Wii to be the first home for DQ to break with tradition either... it'll get a remake, and likely more...



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N.Genckel on 20 December 2009
jarrod said:
3rd party lineup is awesome for 2010, at least in terms of localizations.

Things do seem like they're drying up a bit in Japan, but we're probably good for at least few more big surprises (MH3G, DQ7 remake, Inazuma 11 Break, etc). Weirdly, Japan's really solidified behind WiiWare though, much moreso than XBLA or PSN.

Has Inazuma been confirmed!? If so, hooray, and when is it comming?



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FragiIe on 20 December 2009
N.Genckel said:
jarrod said:
3rd party lineup is awesome for 2010, at least in terms of localizations.

Things do seem like they're drying up a bit in Japan, but we're probably good for at least few more big surprises (MH3G, DQ7 remake, Inazuma 11 Break, etc). Weirdly, Japan's really solidified behind WiiWare though, much moreso than XBLA or PSN.

Has Inazuma been confirmed!? If so, hooray, and when is it comming?

Not yet its just.......strong speculation? Everyones expecting it but nothings concrete yet so..........=/



N.Genckel on 20 December 2009

Damnit ...

I've been speculating strongly about an Elite Beat Agent 2 for 3 years now. Just doesn't seem to make the game come out.



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tolu619 on 20 December 2009
TopCat said:

Fragile, Arc Rise Fantasia, Tales Of Graces, NMH2. TvC, Red Steel 2, LOTR: Aragorn's Quest, Lego Harry Potter, New Call Of Duty, Epic Mickey, Sky Crawlers, Calling, Monster Hunter 3, Gladiator AD, The Grinder and many more... Plus Ninty's games = awesome year for the Wii


Let me add to that.Shiren the Wanderer.What's Calling?LEGO HARRY POTTER!?!SOunds annoying.I think next year will be wii's best year.I want to see how much of COD:MW2 will be succesfully ported to the wii & if Zelda wii is released next year,that will kill everything else!



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Kenryoku_Maxis on 20 December 2009
jarrod said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
jarrod said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
jarrod said:
trestres said:
jarrod said: >
3rd party lineup is awesome for 2010, at least in terms of localizations.

Things do seem like they're drying up a bit in Japan, but we're probably good for at least few more big surprises (MH3G, DQ7 remake, Inazuma 11 Break, etc). Weirdly, Japan's really solidified behind WiiWare though, much moreso than XBLA or PSN.

It's bad for the Wii when all of their big games are speculation. I don't think any of those will make it in 2010, well perhaps MH3G, but still doubt it.

Current rumor puts MH3G around May/June, and it's based off the western build.  I think we'll get *something* DQ related next year, be it Swords 2, Torneko 4, Monsters BR, the DQ7 remake or whatever.  And if Inazuma 11 Break doesn't happen next year, I don't think it'll happen at all.  Shame it and Ushihiro got shelved at L5's last conference. :/

Honestly though, after Q1, there aren't really any legitimately big 3rd party 2010 games announced for any platform, not just Wii.  DS, PSP and PS360 are just as dry at this point.

They're working on Dragon Quest X currently.  I don't think we're going to get anything else.  As much as I'd like a Dragon Quest Swords sequel with Motion Controls.  The Dragon Quest team is different than the SquareSide, which is happy to have 10 teamsworking on 20 Final Fantasy ports/sequels.  Instead, Yuji Horii would rather focus on 1-2 games at once.  And really....Dragon Quest VII remake.  Its not going to happen.  Its way too soon after the original game.  And its the least favorite of the series.  And even if it did, its mostly likely not going to happen on a console.

The only rumor for Dragon Quest that has been solid is Sugiyama (yes, the composer) has hinted at a possible new Dragon Quest Monsters in development.

Er, Hori's team (Armor Project) rarely gets directly involved in spinoffs or remakes.  Hell, look just look at DS... within 4 years it got 3 DQ spinoffs, 3 DQ remakes and a full fledged DQ9.  Even PS2 got a remake and 3 spinoffs in addition to DQ8.  PS1 got 2 spinoffs and remake with DQ7.  SFC got DQ5-6, 2 remakes and a spinoff.  You really think Wii will finish off with just one full DQ and one spinoff?

Arte Piazza, Genius Sonority or some other company will head up the inevitable WII DQ7 remake, just watch...

No, that is the complete opposite of how it is.  Armor Project, along with Akira Toriyama and Koichi Sugiyama, are DIRECTLY involved in every Dragon Quest game.  This includes games from the Dragon Quest Monster series to Dragon Quest Swords to the remakes like Dragon Quest IV-VI DS.  That's why the series has such tight quality control, because they don't just outsource it to a different company (such as Genius Sonority and ArtePiazza) and the core team doesn't have a hand in it.  Yuji Horii even had a direct hand in the recent DS remakes by implementing additional content he wanted added that couldn't make it in those games in their original release.

As for this generation, its a complete exception to past generations.  We've already got 2 side games (Dragon Quest Swords and Joker) as well as they're coming up on the third remake (plus two cel phone remakes of Dragon Quest I and III).  And then they spent just shy of FIVE years working on Dragon Quest IX.  Only to begin work instantly on Dragon Quest X.  True, they could be working on another game, like the rumored fifth Dragon Quest Monsters title, but I don't think we're going to get much else this gen.  I mean, 3 DS remakes, 2 side games and 2 main games is already a ton for any series.  Especially when the main games take anywhere from 4-5 years to complete.

Of course there's oversight, but Armor Project only does actual planning for mainline DQ these days.  Genius Sonority handled planning for Swords (with 8ing on development), Arte Piazza for the PS2/DS remakes (with Matrix and Cattle Call on development) and they let TOSE handle the Slime Morimori and Monsters games almost entirely.    The only spinoffs that Armor Project had a more direct hand in were Think Garage's Itadaki Street crossovers and (I think?) cavia's Shonen Yangus.

Also, there's always been tons of remakes and spinoffs on the side.  In the PS1 era we had DQ1-3 on GBC, plus DQM1-2.  In the PS2 era wer got Torneko 2-3 on GBA, Slime Morimori 1, DQM Caravan Heart and a TON of mobile ports and spinoffs (DQI-II, Monsters, Fushigino Dungeon, etc).

There's much more than enough manpower between all the developers involved in DQ to squeeze out another remake for Wii.  And I wouldn't expect Wii to be the first home for DQ to break with tradition either... it'll get a remake, and likely more...

Armor Project and the other core members of the Dragon Quest team has a much more direct role in the development of each Dragon Quest game than I think you realize.  Yuji Horii worked directly on games like Dragon Quest Swords, EVERY Dragon Quest Monsters and even the latest Dragon Quest Wars for DSi.  There's a reason every DQ game starts off with 'Armor Project/Bird Studio/Koichi Sugiyama' on the loading screen.  They did more than ust planning, they were there for actual development and game design throughout every stage of the games development.



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TopCat on 20 December 2009
tolu619 said:
TopCat said:

Fragile, Arc Rise Fantasia, Tales Of Graces, NMH2. TvC, Red Steel 2, LOTR: Aragorn's Quest, Lego Harry Potter, New Call Of Duty, Epic Mickey, Sky Crawlers, Calling, Monster Hunter 3, Gladiator AD, The Grinder and many more... Plus Ninty's games = awesome year for the Wii


Let me add to that.Shiren the Wanderer.What's Calling?LEGO HARRY POTTER!?!SOunds annoying.I think next year will be wii's best year.I want to see how much of COD:MW2 will be succesfully ported to the wii & if Zelda wii is released next year,that will kill everything else!

Calling is Hudson's Wii Horror game. Lego Harry Potter.. I think it will be a decent game. I like the lego games a lot so....




bmmb1 on 20 December 2009

I don't expect much from Calling, it will probably be so so at best. But most of the others should be good to great.



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N.Genckel on 20 December 2009
Soriku said:

Inazuma Eleven Break isn't really speculation. They just said it wasn't ready yet a few months ago but there are a few screens.

English mfof, English! Is it announced in English?



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jarrod on 21 December 2009
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
jarrod said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
jarrod said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
jarrod said:
trestres said:
jarrod said: >
3rd party lineup is awesome for 2010, at least in terms of localizations.

Things do seem like they're drying up a bit in Japan, but we're probably good for at least few more big surprises (MH3G, DQ7 remake, Inazuma 11 Break, etc). Weirdly, Japan's really solidified behind WiiWare though, much moreso than XBLA or PSN.

It's bad for the Wii when all of their big games are speculation. I don't think any of those will make it in 2010, well perhaps MH3G, but still doubt it.

Current rumor puts MH3G around May/June, and it's based off the western build.  I think we'll get *something* DQ related next year, be it Swords 2, Torneko 4, Monsters BR, the DQ7 remake or whatever.  And if Inazuma 11 Break doesn't happen next year, I don't think it'll happen at all.  Shame it and Ushihiro got shelved at L5's last conference. :/

Honestly though, after Q1, there aren't really any legitimately big 3rd party 2010 games announced for any platform, not just Wii.  DS, PSP and PS360 are just as dry at this point.

They're working on Dragon Quest X currently.  I don't think we're going to get anything else.  As much as I'd like a Dragon Quest Swords sequel with Motion Controls.  The Dragon Quest team is different than the SquareSide, which is happy to have 10 teamsworking on 20 Final Fantasy ports/sequels.  Instead, Yuji Horii would rather focus on 1-2 games at once.  And really....Dragon Quest VII remake.  Its not going to happen.  Its way too soon after the original game.  And its the least favorite of the series.  And even if it did, its mostly likely not going to happen on a console.

The only rumor for Dragon Quest that has been solid is Sugiyama (yes, the composer) has hinted at a possible new Dragon Quest Monsters in development.

Er, Hori's team (Armor Project) rarely gets directly involved in spinoffs or remakes.  Hell, look just look at DS... within 4 years it got 3 DQ spinoffs, 3 DQ remakes and a full fledged DQ9.  Even PS2 got a remake and 3 spinoffs in addition to DQ8.  PS1 got 2 spinoffs and remake with DQ7.  SFC got DQ5-6, 2 remakes and a spinoff.  You really think Wii will finish off with just one full DQ and one spinoff?

Arte Piazza, Genius Sonority or some other company will head up the inevitable WII DQ7 remake, just watch...

No, that is the complete opposite of how it is.  Armor Project, along with Akira Toriyama and Koichi Sugiyama, are DIRECTLY involved in every Dragon Quest game.  This includes games from the Dragon Quest Monster series to Dragon Quest Swords to the remakes like Dragon Quest IV-VI DS.  That's why the series has such tight quality control, because they don't just outsource it to a different company (such as Genius Sonority and ArtePiazza) and the core team doesn't have a hand in it.  Yuji Horii even had a direct hand in the recent DS remakes by implementing additional content he wanted added that couldn't make it in those games in their original release.

As for this generation, its a complete exception to past generations.  We've already got 2 side games (Dragon Quest Swords and Joker) as well as they're coming up on the third remake (plus two cel phone remakes of Dragon Quest I and III).  And then they spent just shy of FIVE years working on Dragon Quest IX.  Only to begin work instantly on Dragon Quest X.  True, they could be working on another game, like the rumored fifth Dragon Quest Monsters title, but I don't think we're going to get much else this gen.  I mean, 3 DS remakes, 2 side games and 2 main games is already a ton for any series.  Especially when the main games take anywhere from 4-5 years to complete.

Of course there's oversight, but Armor Project only does actual planning for mainline DQ these days.  Genius Sonority handled planning for Swords (with 8ing on development), Arte Piazza for the PS2/DS remakes (with Matrix and Cattle Call on development) and they let TOSE handle the Slime Morimori and Monsters games almost entirely.    The only spinoffs that Armor Project had a more direct hand in were Think Garage's Itadaki Street crossovers and (I think?) cavia's Shonen Yangus.

Also, there's always been tons of remakes and spinoffs on the side.  In the PS1 era we had DQ1-3 on GBC, plus DQM1-2.  In the PS2 era wer got Torneko 2-3 on GBA, Slime Morimori 1, DQM Caravan Heart and a TON of mobile ports and spinoffs (DQI-II, Monsters, Fushigino Dungeon, etc).

There's much more than enough manpower between all the developers involved in DQ to squeeze out another remake for Wii.  And I wouldn't expect Wii to be the first home for DQ to break with tradition either... it'll get a remake, and likely more...

Armor Project and the other core members of the Dragon Quest team has a much more direct role in the development of each Dragon Quest game than I think you realize.  Yuji Horii worked directly on games like Dragon Quest Swords, EVERY Dragon Quest Monsters and even the latest Dragon Quest Wars for DSi.  There's a reason every DQ game starts off with 'Armor Project/Bird Studio/Koichi Sugiyama' on the loading screen.  They did more than ust planning, they were there for actual development and game design throughout every stage of the games development.

I think you're misunderstanding me, I'm not saying Horii and the core staff at Armor Project don't play a huge role.  In fact, I'd say the centralized oversight is in large part why I think the DQ franchise holds up so well quality wise versus something like Final Fantasy (which is really, all over the map).  That's pretty huge in itself, it's like how Miyamoto oversees everything at EAD to keep standards high.

What you're not getting though is that the current workload and amount of DQ games isn't really exceptionally high nor would it in any way preclude Wii from getting more DQ games in addition to DQX (which is itself likely 2 years away still).  If anything, Horii's current development partners and the franchise history basically ensure Wii will see additional DQ releases (in the form of remake(s) and maybe more spinoff(s)).