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Cage: Heavy Rain 'not a videogame anymore in my mind'

 

Are you excited for Quantic Dream's Heavy Rain? It's difficult not to be -- the developer has been wowing gamers with the game's tech for years, with lifelike visuals that promise to bring out emotions of in-game characters like never before.

Judging Heavy Rain on its visual merits is one thing, but with Quantic Dream promising a mature and compelling experience like we've never seen in gaming, expectations are through the roof. 

But is Heavy Rain even a "game" at all? Quantic Dream co-CEO David Cage isn't so sure, as he recently explained to me what makes Heavy Rain truly unique. When trying to describe my experience with the game to him, I used the words "interactive movie" for lack of a better term -- Heavy Rain's gameplay isn't typical. There aren't any set goals or challenges; Cage describes it as a "journey," and I tend to agree. 

"Heavy Rain is about playing with a story almost in a physical sense, changing it, twisting it, discovering it, making it unique, making it yours," he explains. 

 

"Using the term 'interactive movie' to describe Heavy Rain has been a tricky question from the beginning," he continues. "It is in many ways what Heavy Rain is -- a visually told story that the player can affect by his actions."

But he's quick to distance himself a bit from the term, mostly due to the negative connotation gamers might have. Early "interactive movies" would offer up a series of scenes for players, offering them mostly meaningless choices from time to time. Despite the fact that Heavy Rain offers a very different experience to those "interactive movies" of old, Quantic Dream still had to field negative comments from people ignorant to how to the game is actually experience. To many people, Cage says, there's simply no other way to tell a story but through cut-scenes.

"In Heavy Rain, the player is in control second to second," he explains, "he tells the story through is actions. All this is done in a very fluid, seamless way, with no cut scenes, no big flashing sign to make decisions, and this is what makes the game really unique."

But because the game is so unique and shies away from videogame design conventions, he's hesitant to call it a "videogame" at all. 

"Heavy Rain is not a videogame anymore in my mind," he says, "because it breaks with most of the traditional paradigms, but it's fully interactive."

"If the format becomes successful," he suggests, "we will probably have to find a different name for this type of experience."

Based on what you've seen of Heavy Rain, what would you consider it? Check back in tomorrow for my full preview and impressions, with more insight on Heavy Rain from Cage himself.



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This is exactly what I've been saying about Blu Ray games. It's so damn powerful they are moving beyond videogames. This will be a great controllable movie but I want a game as well.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
This is exactly what I've been saying about Blu Ray games. It's so damn powerful they are moving beyond videogames. This will be a great controllable movie but I want a game as well.

 

There are also some games coming out next year ;)



 

I don't care what it is or isn't in his mind, I can't wait to give it a try.



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CGI-Quality said:
I posted this in the Official Thread. Posts like these don't necessarily need their own thread.

Okay, then I thought it would be alright since we have game specific boards now.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
This is exactly what I've been saying about Blu Ray games. It's so damn powerful they are moving beyond videogames. This will be a great controllable movie but I want a game as well.

Well, luckily the PS3 can provide you with tons of games, so no problem there.



Feylic said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
This is exactly what I've been saying about Blu Ray games. It's so damn powerful they are moving beyond videogames. This will be a great controllable movie but I want a game as well.

Well, luckily the PS3 can provide you with tons of games, so no problem there.


I have a handful of games on my list to buy this year and next year. The 360 and PS3 next year. I beat MGS4 this year which was a movie, Uncharted which was a movie, Uncharted 2 which was even more of a movie. InFamous was actually a game and the most impressive action videogame was Batman Arkham Asylum and Bioware was definitely the best RPG. I got Tekken 6 and Blaz Blue and My FPS fixes are on the 360 with COD4 MW2 and Halo 3: ODST, so all I have left for this year is a couple PS3 games (not sure if I want to get a racer next year, but we'll see how GT5 goes). My major gaming fixes are going to be on the 360. Heavy Rain will be an enjoyable movie, FFXIII will be great and Versus should be good (but I know nothing about yet besides JRPG fanboys love it and SE said it would be better than the main franchise) so bottoms up to next year. We'll see how it goes.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

I have a handful of games on my list to buy this year and next year. The 360 and PS3 next year. I beat MGS4 this year which was a movie, Uncharted which was a movie, Uncharted 2 which was even more of a movie.

What exacly makes MGS4 a movie? I'd say it's a straight out video game with a movie's length of cutscenes but it definitely felt very "gamey". I'ts the only MGS I've played from the series. It was one of the first games I owned on ps3 and one of the very very few games whose campaign I actually played through multiple times. I loved it.

 

Uncharted 2 though, that felt tons more like a movie. The game is extremely linear. Much like a movie, on your 2nd playthrough, everything is very predictable. Compare to MGS4 which can be played in many different ways. It can be a shooter or stealth game.

 

If Uncharted 2 is a movie though, it's a shame that the weapons didn't have the "oomph" that guns in Hollywood movies always seem to have. Seriously, the gunplay in U2 is much too calm....



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
Feylic said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
This is exactly what I've been saying about Blu Ray games. It's so damn powerful they are moving beyond videogames. This will be a great controllable movie but I want a game as well.

Well, luckily the PS3 can provide you with tons of games, so no problem there.


I have a handful of games on my list to buy this year and next year. The 360 and PS3 next year. I beat MGS4 this year which was a movie, Uncharted which was a movie, Uncharted 2 which was even more of a movie. InFamous was actually a game and the most impressive action videogame was Batman Arkham Asylum and Bioware was definitely the best RPG. I got Tekken 6 and Blaz Blue and My FPS fixes are on the 360 with COD4 MW2 and Halo 3: ODST, so all I have left for this year is a couple PS3 games (not sure if I want to get a racer next year, but we'll see how GT5 goes). My major gaming fixes are going to be on the 360. Heavy Rain will be an enjoyable movie, FFXIII will be great and Versus should be good (but I know nothing about yet besides JRPG fanboys love it and SE said it would be better than the main franchise) so bottoms up to next year. We'll see how it goes.

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S.T.A.G.E. said:
Feylic said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
This is exactly what I've been saying about Blu Ray games. It's so damn powerful they are moving beyond videogames. This will be a great controllable movie but I want a game as well.

Well, luckily the PS3 can provide you with tons of games, so no problem there.


I have a handful of games on my list to buy this year and next year. The 360 and PS3 next year. I beat MGS4 this year which was a movie, Uncharted which was a movie, Uncharted 2 which was even more of a movie. InFamous was actually a game and the most impressive action videogame was Batman Arkham Asylum and Bioware was definitely the best RPG. I got Tekken 6 and Blaz Blue and My FPS fixes are on the 360 with COD4 MW2 and Halo 3: ODST, so all I have left for this year is a couple PS3 games (not sure if I want to get a racer next year, but we'll see how GT5 goes). My major gaming fixes are going to be on the 360. Heavy Rain will be an enjoyable movie, FFXIII will be great and Versus should be good (but I know nothing about yet besides JRPG fanboys love it and SE said it would be better than the main franchise) so bottoms up to next year. We'll see how it goes.

So what is your definition of a movie? I consider none of those games movies, because they are games. The movies I watch have one interaction, pressing play.