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jesus kung fu magic on 16 December 2009

Beautiful....just beautiful....



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Mr Khan on 16 December 2009

nihon no terebi gemu ga ichiban suki desu!



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Kasz216 on 16 December 2009
leatherhat said:
Kasz216 said:
leatherhat said:
Kasz216 said:
leatherhat said:
Kasz216 said:
The wii is the most popular system this generation... driven by... software from Nintendo mostly.

So... no, i'd say Japan makes the best.

Wii sales are driven by some of the lowest quality software I've ever seen, not exactly a great argument for quality.

That's what we'd call a personal opinion.

It isn't backed up by sales.  Which is basically the only way of judging a medium that isn't based on performance (like cars) or artistic merit. (Like books or movies.)

 

1. "lowest quality software Ive ever seen" implied that it was my opinion even I didn't come out and say it

2. Games have no artistic merit? I gotta leave this thread somebody just opened pandoras box.

Some games do... however the Wii actually wins in that regard.

For a piece of work to have artistic merit it needs to embrace the strengths of it's medium.  Few games do this.

Most run from it... like say MGS4 which tries to be "like a movie."

 

You won't see a movie praised for "Being just like a book by having large walls of text."


Games like Shadow of the Collosus, Super Mario Brothers, The Mario Kart games... these games actually have way  more artistic merit then the games most people mistake for artistic because they have a lot of cutscenes.

Who said anything about Metal Gear? I was talking about Demons Souls. And please don't tell me you don't think it embraces the medium.

Couldn't say, haven't played it.

It's still one game versus... well many. 



leatherhat on 16 December 2009
Kasz216 said:
leatherhat said:
Kasz216 said:
leatherhat said:
Kasz216 said:
leatherhat said:
Kasz216 said:
The wii is the most popular system this generation... driven by... software from Nintendo mostly.

So... no, i'd say Japan makes the best.

Wii sales are driven by some of the lowest quality software I've ever seen, not exactly a great argument for quality.

That's what we'd call a personal opinion.

It isn't backed up by sales.  Which is basically the only way of judging a medium that isn't based on performance (like cars) or artistic merit. (Like books or movies.)

 

1. "lowest quality software Ive ever seen" implied that it was my opinion even I didn't come out and say it

2. Games have no artistic merit? I gotta leave this thread somebody just opened pandoras box.

Some games do... however the Wii actually wins in that regard.

For a piece of work to have artistic merit it needs to embrace the strengths of it's medium.  Few games do this.

Most run from it... like say MGS4 which tries to be "like a movie."

 

You won't see a movie praised for "Being just like a book by having large walls of text."


Games like Shadow of the Collosus, Super Mario Brothers, The Mario Kart games... these games actually have way  more artistic merit then the games most people mistake for artistic because they have a lot of cutscenes.

Who said anything about Metal Gear? I was talking about Demons Souls. And please don't tell me you don't think it embraces the medium.

Couldn't say, haven't played it.

It's still one game versus... well many. 

Also on a side not, I'm a huge metal gear fan and realize that the cutscenes are a turnoff for some, but I was just doing some verbal jujistu to throw you off. I think Metal Gear has huge artistic value, and Kojima has embraced the medium in a big way to make a great entertainment experince. Just think about Psycho Mantis. You want to tell me that wasn't embracing the medium? Look past the cutscenes and you find one of the richest gameplay experiences in history.



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dsister44 on 16 December 2009
radiantshadow92 said:
Xxain said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Xxain said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Xxain said:
Did everybody forget?..... not only does Japan make better games, Japan IS games.... theve been slow this gen, but overall yes absolutely... western developers can just barely make a game that doesnt include a guy holding a gun


List of great non-Japanese made games that do not depend on guns this gen:

InFamous

Alan Wake

Dragon Age

Batman Arkham Asylum

Assassins Creed 2

Heavenly Sword

Guitar Hero franchise

Rock Band franchise

Forza 3

Project Gotham

Little Big Planet

Prince of Persia

Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2

Brutal Legend

Oblivion

Prototype

Burnout Paradise

Pure

Dirt 2

Need for Speed: Shift

 American (canada included)/ European devs have been owning this gen.

19?.... just like I said..barely, poor westernern developers..when will they unlock the door to creativity?

The majority of the games that have been AAA or near that have been made by western devs, if you need more games listed just say the word. This was only a taste.

is any of it creative? innovative?

little big planet is one of the most creative and innovative games you will ever play >_>...amercan dev. are great and are the creators of some of my favorite games, calling them poor is just pathetic of you, because they have done AMAZING this gen...jap dev are great also, but calling western dev poor just makes you look like a fool 

-100 respect *thats from GTAIV, the highest rated game this gen*

Media Molecule is British.



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radiantshadow92 on 16 December 2009
dsister44 said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Xxain said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Xxain said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Xxain said:
Did everybody forget?..... not only does Japan make better games, Japan IS games.... theve been slow this gen, but overall yes absolutely... western developers can just barely make a game that doesnt include a guy holding a gun


List of great non-Japanese made games that do not depend on guns this gen:

InFamous

Alan Wake

Dragon Age

Batman Arkham Asylum

Assassins Creed 2

Heavenly Sword

Guitar Hero franchise

Rock Band franchise

Forza 3

Project Gotham

Little Big Planet

Prince of Persia

Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2

Brutal Legend

Oblivion

Prototype

Burnout Paradise

Pure

Dirt 2

Need for Speed: Shift

 American (canada included)/ European devs have been owning this gen.

19?.... just like I said..barely, poor westernern developers..when will they unlock the door to creativity?

The majority of the games that have been AAA or near that have been made by western devs, if you need more games listed just say the word. This was only a taste.

is any of it creative? innovative?

little big planet is one of the most creative and innovative games you will ever play >_>...amercan dev. are great and are the creators of some of my favorite games, calling them poor is just pathetic of you, because they have done AMAZING this gen...jap dev are great also, but calling western dev poor just makes you look like a fool 

-100 respect *thats from GTAIV, the highest rated game this gen*

Media Molecule is British.

lol yeah =p,

 

but he still  said all those games are not innovative >_>, lol he reported me for saying "jap" lulz



darthdevidem01 on 16 December 2009
jesus kung fu magic said:

Beautiful....just beautiful....

your trick worked J man!



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leatherhat on 16 December 2009
dsister44 said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Xxain said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Xxain said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Xxain said:
Did everybody forget?..... not only does Japan make better games, Japan IS games.... theve been slow this gen, but overall yes absolutely... western developers can just barely make a game that doesnt include a guy holding a gun


List of great non-Japanese made games that do not depend on guns this gen:

InFamous

Alan Wake

Dragon Age

Batman Arkham Asylum

Assassins Creed 2

Heavenly Sword

Guitar Hero franchise

Rock Band franchise

Forza 3

Project Gotham

Little Big Planet

Prince of Persia

Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2

Brutal Legend

Oblivion

Prototype

Burnout Paradise

Pure

Dirt 2

Need for Speed: Shift

 American (canada included)/ European devs have been owning this gen.

19?.... just like I said..barely, poor westernern developers..when will they unlock the door to creativity?

The majority of the games that have been AAA or near that have been made by western devs, if you need more games listed just say the word. This was only a taste.

is any of it creative? innovative?

little big planet is one of the most creative and innovative games you will ever play >_>...amercan dev. are great and are the creators of some of my favorite games, calling them poor is just pathetic of you, because they have done AMAZING this gen...jap dev are great also, but calling western dev poor just makes you look like a fool 

-100 respect *thats from GTAIV, the highest rated game this gen*

Media Molecule is British.

Last I checked England was the west. Nice attempt to throw him off though, but in one of the many quotes is specifically says western.



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jonnhytesta on 16 December 2009

lets see white knight chronicles, ff13,resonance of fate,ff14,etc. netx year. JAPAN WINS



Xxain on 16 December 2009
radiantshadow92 said:
dsister44 said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Xxain said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Xxain said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Xxain said:
Did everybody forget?..... not only does Japan make better games, Japan IS games.... theve been slow this gen, but overall yes absolutely... western developers can just barely make a game that doesnt include a guy holding a gun


List of great non-Japanese made games that do not depend on guns this gen:

InFamous

Alan Wake

Dragon Age

Batman Arkham Asylum

Assassins Creed 2

Heavenly Sword

Guitar Hero franchise

Rock Band franchise

Forza 3

Project Gotham

Little Big Planet

Prince of Persia

Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2

Brutal Legend

Oblivion

Prototype

Burnout Paradise

Pure

Dirt 2

Need for Speed: Shift

 American (canada included)/ European devs have been owning this gen.

19?.... just like I said..barely, poor westernern developers..when will they unlock the door to creativity?

The majority of the games that have been AAA or near that have been made by western devs, if you need more games listed just say the word. This was only a taste.

is any of it creative? innovative?

little big planet is one of the most creative and innovative games you will ever play >_>...amercan dev. are great and are the creators of some of my favorite games, calling them poor is just pathetic of you, because they have done AMAZING this gen...jap dev are great also, but calling western dev poor just makes you look like a fool 

-100 respect *thats from GTAIV, the highest rated game this gen*

Media Molecule is British.

lol yeah =p,

 

but he still  said all those games are not innovative >_>, lol he reported me for saying "jap" lulz


I didnt report u for anything