| Soriku said: lol, anyone remember the dude who broke the ToV 360 disc in half? He's at it again :P
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Some people just have too much money to throw away (~$100)...
| Soriku said: lol, anyone remember the dude who broke the ToV 360 disc in half? He's at it again :P
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Some people just have too much money to throw away (~$100)...
johnsobas said:
I'm not saying that nobody is thinking as you were saying, but there seems to be more people who are thinking that they want the new final fantasy on the newest system then people that are saying they won't buy it because they don't want to buy a new system. Whatever the reason is the numbers don't support what you are saying. The world market is different then Japan, userbase is something that you can argue on a worldwide level. We were in a discussion about FF sales in Japan. |
If you accept it as likely that one person is saying that, then you accept that there is a limiting mathematical relationship between the PS3 userbase and the sales of FFXIII.
Meanwhile, you're saying that Square Enix could be worried about the PS3 userbase worldwide, but they can't possibly be in Japan? Where is the logic in that?
Japan and the west are a different market with different trends, don't directly compare the 2. I think most the people here know that.
I don't know what you're trying to argue, they are limiting sales for 1 reasons but sales are rising for other reasons. Bottom line is the sales have been higher for the first game on the system.
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| Soriku said: lol, anyone remember the dude who broke the ToV 360 disc in half? He's at it again :P
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But ............. why? I can understand the frustration from Vesperia, but not this.
A game store boss do this just in order to engage our attention,and then sold the broken one more than $70.
| johnsobas said: Japan and the west are a different market with different trends, don't directly compare the 2. I think most the people here know that. I don't know what you're trying to argue, they are limiting sales for 1 reasons but sales are rising for other reasons. Bottom line is the sales have been higher for the first game on the system. |
By the way, thanks for having a rational discussion. I don't think you're completely wrong to point to the numbers of past Final Fantasy games. I also think you're right that the Final Fantasy games, as a big name, are less affected by a small console userbase than most games. However, you're suggesting that if the ratios between userbase and sales don't directly correlate between past Final Fantasy games, they can have absolutely nothing to do with future Final Fantasy games. Your theory totally excludes every other factor that could have affected the sales of those past FF games, factors like the overall popularity of the series, which could be changing over time, or the individual popularity of each game.
And one major factor affects FFXIII, unlike any other Final Fantasy every released, and makes comparisons to past FFs even more flawed: It is the first Final Fantasy to be released on a console which clearly will never be in first place, and has lost significant userbase to the competition.
Basically, I think you're stating things in an exaggerated way. The way you're saying it (to my ears anyway) is: Userbase can have no limiting effect on the sales of a Final Fantasy game. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Otherwise you seem to be stating an extreme that seems, by your own admission, impossible. Fewer PS3s owned means at least a slight reduction in potential buyers of FFXIII. If the PS3 had a userbase of ten people, it would obviously affect the sales of FFXIII. With a userbase of four million, the affects are less, but they are still going to be there. Especially when you're talking about a game that is expected to sell around two million eventually, and have one of the highest attach rates of all time, for any game. I would be shocked if Square Enix isn't just as aware of this in the Japanese market as they are everywhere else.
| Soriku said: lol, anyone remember the dude who broke the ToV 360 disc in half? He's at it again :P
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That guy is a dick
That broken FF13 disc is making me cringe. Who would do something like that to a game like that. Oh the humanity.
| Soriku said: lol, anyone remember the dude who broke the ToV 360 disc in half? He's at it again :P
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The guy who did this should be put into the middle of Akihabara, holding this broken Blu-Ray in the front of a crowd of FF fans who couldn't buy the game Day 1. I promise that you wouldn't find any remains left of him after 5 minutes >______________>
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Oh,i've made a mistake...there is a LOGO difference between HK and JP version.