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peachbuggy on 16 December 2009

I would have thought that if the game is good enough the userbase (in this case tales of...) would follow, buying whichever console it landed on.



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darthdevidem01 on 16 December 2009
trestres said:
It would be very sad if MW2 ends outselling both SW3 and ToG in the long run. It will be close I think. ToG sold worse than ToS2 on its first week according to famitsu, Soriku, where are you getting you numbers from?

Also, where are those that told me that Naruto didn't bomb on the Wii 2 weeks ago, telling me that the series was in decline and a lot of nonsense. Look at the sales of the PSP game, there's no denying now that Naruto did bomb on the Wii.

Winning Eleven has bombed even with a bundle, but well deserved for Konami. The series is dead on the Wii, but they will keep on releasing the late versions because the game at least sells in the West.

Good HW sales for the Wii, not as good as in 2007, but certainly better than last year.

2 new million sellers for the Wii according to Famitsu: WF+ and NSMBWii.

actually its OVEr is xmas peak week



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Yakuzaice on 16 December 2009
ioi said:
Also I'm not sure why people are saying Graces will struggle to do much past 200k - this is a Wii title and it is release during the holidays, it won't have the same kind of drop that Symphonia 2 had. It should be good for 250-300k in Japan and will do well in the west as well.

Well it hasn't exactly shown those legs in the first few days.  Symphonia 2 had 79.5% of it's week one sales day one.  Graces had 79%.  Perhaps media create will show better numbers (symphonia was 87.6% using them).



psrock on 16 December 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
ioi said:
Yes, if i were Namco I'd be looking to release the next one as a PS3/Wii multiplat, maybe sell 300k on PS3 and 175k on Wii or something like that to get close to 500k total.

Exactly!!

 

in fact the next FF should be multiplat like this too

you think everything is a disapointment, huh

 

And no, ff will not be multiplat with Wii.

While your memory is awful

lets be honest here, you thought saying uncharted 2 won't hit a certain sales barrier was "hating" the game, stop being so bitter

You see negatives everywhere psrock

 

i see you eveywhere.

then how are you not madly hyped and crazy for FF13 & why do you not have an FF13 avatar yet and/or praise dogs in every post and/or make stealthy jabs at PSP?

Reported for lying!

I am not a fan of FF actually, I hope it does well, but you seems to get disapointed to easily, you can be a fan but be  realistic. Let things surprise you for once.



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Zucas on 16 December 2009

Yea concerning Tales of Graces, considering we are in the holiday season I don't think it should have too many issues hitting 250,000. Too much hardware being sold too many people shopping for it too drop as much as a traditional game in the year. But hey not like it isn't possible.

As for Wii hardware most of the increases are probably seasonal but New Super Mario Bros Wii, Tales of Graces, and Samurai Warriors 3 are probably pushing some hardware still. But considering Wii is still top brand and at a cheaper price, might see some pretty damn good increases for holiday rises compared to previous years. Same probably for PS3.



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trestres on 16 December 2009

@darth: The Wii sold 170k units this same week in 2007, but yeah, a lot better than last year.



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darthdevidem01 on 16 December 2009
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
ioi said:
Yes, if i were Namco I'd be looking to release the next one as a PS3/Wii multiplat, maybe sell 300k on PS3 and 175k on Wii or something like that to get close to 500k total.

Exactly!!

 

in fact the next FF should be multiplat like this too

you think everything is a disapointment, huh

 

And no, ff will not be multiplat with Wii.

While your memory is awful

lets be honest here, you thought saying uncharted 2 won't hit a certain sales barrier was "hating" the game, stop being so bitter

You see negatives everywhere psrock

 

i see you eveywhere.

then how are you not madly hyped and crazy for FF13 & why do you not have an FF13 avatar yet and/or praise dogs in every post and/or make stealthy jabs at PSP?

Reported for lying!

I am not a fan of FF actually, I hope it does well, but you seems to get disapointed to easily, you can be a fan but be  realistic. Let things surprise you for once.

I have had enough surprises this year, the PS3 slim being the biggest, then again who hasn't it surprised

Apart from this MGS4 surprised me with strong sales & GT5 prologue did, there is no way FF13 won't

@zucas

PsWii are ALREADY over last years peak holiday rise



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darthdevidem01 on 16 December 2009
trestres said:
@darth: The Wii sold 170k units this same week in 2007, but yeah, a lot better than last year.

oh sorry

how the hell did it do that well in 07



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mrstickball on 16 December 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
dolemit3 said:
ioi said:
mrstickball said:
darthdevidem01 said:
ioi said:
Yes, if i were Namco I'd be looking to release the next one as a PS3/Wii multiplat, maybe sell 300k on PS3 and 175k on Wii or something like that to get close to 500k total.

Exactly!!

in fact the next FF should be multiplat like this too

Why should the Wii get preference on a Tales multiplat? It'd probably make more sense on a PS3/X360 Tales multiplat, as you could use the same resources, as well as the fact that Vesperia on 360 has sold similarly to what both Wii Tales games will likely end up at.

I'm primarly stating this due to dev resources, rather than anything else. A true multi-plat would be very interesting, and if the development costs weren't too high, you could probably get a Tales game back up to >500k.

9m userbase vs 1.2m userbase?

9m userbase that cares nothing about Tales.

not after Dragon Quest 10

Who says DQX will come out before the next Tales? Who says that the DQ fans will augment other RPGs? I'm not saying those are certanties, but a developer has to rely on what they know.

I certainly understand the user base argument, however, I am trying to think about the cost(s) of developing a game for the PS3 and then porting to the Wii. From what we've seen, it takes a considerable re-write to port a game from the PS3 to the Wii, whereas going from the PS3 to the 360 is much more cost-effective.

Since that is the case, wouldn't it make more sense to spend less money on porting, and see close to similar results? Vesperia on 360 sold >200,000 units in Japan, which was within 5% of ToS:DONTW. Had Vesperia came out first, it may have even outsold DOTNW.

Of course, this may be speculative. We don't know how multi-plat JRPGs do in Japan quite yet. If the X360/PS3 multi-plats are any indicaiton, then they do very well (as we've seen PS3/X360 multis do very well on all formats).

 



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Yakuzaice on 16 December 2009

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