Godfather: Blackhand Edition on Wii is everything but NOT a game for kids it is forbidden in germany and austria (yes - because it is so violent) and you are talking about kidding

I'll take the bet; Wii total sales will most definitely be higher than X360 and PS3 sales combined after the numbers are in from December 2008 (North America), December 28, 2008 or Jan 4, 2008 (Japan), and 2008 (other) (maybe other will be more granular by then?) "How can he be so sure?" some of you say... For one, I can run some numbers that give me a rough estimate: If I assume Europe sales will be the same as North America sales (due purely to lack of data on europe - I'm aware this isn't accurate), and I also assume that all consoles will continue selling at the rate they did last week/month (Feb/07 NA, Mar 25/07 Japan), Project that forward 22 months/ 93 weeks, and Wii is in the lead. Again, the margin for error is pretty high, that's not enough... But I have another ace up my sleeve: The wii sales are -still- limited by supply. They could be higher. PS3/x360, not so much. So, that's my opinion; Nothing's forcing you to agree, and we'll certainly see more in upcoming weeks/months....

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!this is unheard of the Nintendo system has gotten a game banned, blasphamy it can't be true, they are the kiddie system, they are the inbodyment of everything child like, I for one sir am appauled!

Sorry. I couldn't resist!

Wow, what a hater. First of all. These are the figures that matter. PS2 2,372,750 360 2,080,750 DS 1,974,250 Wii 1,590,250 That would be the monthly software units sold. What was that? Wii is 4th. And lastly, adding the DS software in with the Wii (which you are doing) and then comparing it to the other consoles shows complete Bias. Nintendo is primarily responsible for most of their game publishing unlike the other competitors. So of course they are going to have a ton of titles in the top whatever. But overall, they are getting outsold in software units even as hot as the system is. Uh. Last Gen what Nintendo First Party titles sold more than 5 million? 3 and Barely more than 5 million. Yeah, cause having 100 million consoles is a bad thing. You Wii guys are ridiculous. When you have a massive library (making Nintendos look insignificant last gen) sales of Individual games are less simply because you have a lot of seleciton. Regardless....Sony still makes some damn fine games. God of War 2 is Game of the Year right now and only 2 games probably even have a shot of knocking it off. That would be GTA IV and Halo 3. I don't see a nintendo title even coming close. Nintendo shouldn't even have to increase the supply, you can get one right now in the US and have been able to for a while. If sales went down from 450k to 350k in NA how is it there is a shortage? What did Nintendo actually decrease supply and will now increase supply? I'm arguing about this generation of systems, which the PS2 is not a part of. The single and only reason that Nintendo was able to outsell the other 2 the last 2 months in total is Japan. Regardless, moving forward from this month on we will see. I'm not including the PS2 cause those are not new purchases in my mind. They are purchases from very low end consumers that are just now entering the console market and have little bearing on this generations fight. The comparison is whether new purchasers are choosing the similar HD systems or the cheaper non-hd Wii. And it's about dead even. Oh yeah, in the US this year, Americans will buy 55 million Hi-def sets. That's way more than any of the consoles will be selling and I think people will want to take advantage of those sets.

First, you should finish off that list: PS2 2,372,750 360 2,080,750 DS 1,974,250 Wii 1,590,250 PSP: 1,023,000 GC: 523,000 XB: 516,000 PS3: 438,000 I wonder why you stopped right after the Wii? No bias there at all. Now lets add Japaneese sales figures for the last week: DS: 786,500 PS2: 491,000 Wii: 131,500 PSP: 62,500 PS3: 26,500 XBox 360: 16,750 GBA: 3,000 DC: 500 Maybe the fact that the PS2, DS and (in North America) the XBox 360 have sold many more systems would explain why they have sold more games? You like to bring up the sales of 100,000,000 PS2 systems when it suits you and then ignore it when it doesn't. The sales difference between the PS2 and Gamecube meant that the PS2 got more third party support, the support was stronger, and sales of software (both third and first party) sold far better. Allow me to introduce you to Super Smash Bros, Metroid Prime and Super Mario Galaxy. Even if these games are not the "Game of the year", I will bet you that every major site and magazine declares them as (one of) the top Fighters, shooters and Platformers of the year. Certainly, if you know of a shipment and line up a couple of hours before the store opens you can easily get a Wii; but currently they are not easy to find Online or In Store. I'm not sure what you mean by this, but the Nintendo Wii has been outselling the XBox 360 and PS3 because it is a system people want to own at a price they can afford; Nintendo hardware in general has been selling so well because both of their main systems (DS and Wii) are systems people want at prices they can afford. I call Bullshit! 55 Million HD TV sets would mean that over 50% of households in North America would rush out and replace their TV this year. If you're going to lie at least make it sound reasonable.

I think you'd be wrong. Trends don't stay the same over the course of a consoles lilfe. WII SALES ARE NOT LIMITED BY SUPPLY! HELLO! All you guys are being ridiculous. In NA January to February sales went from 450k to 350k...did Nintendo just produce 100k less consoles? Japan, January 450k for the month, February 303k, 150k less. I'm sorry, eithwer Nintendo is making less and purposely supply constraining the system or you all are being insane. It's obvious they are selling less than they were (which you would expect off holiday). So increasing the supply will not garner new sales because it's not in supply shortage. You can get a Wii online. I have seen them sitting on shelves for the last month. Sure, they are selling out, but point being it wasn't impossible to find one 2 months ago if you knew what you were doing. PS2 was only able to achieve outselling the others by a ridiculous amount because they had all the advantages to begin with. 1) They launched 1 1/2 years before the others in Japan 2) They launched 1 year before the other 2 in US 3) They had the 3rd party support of practically every company 4) The forced a price advantage on the other 2 very quickly 1) Wii is launching behind and against another system 2) They don't have all the 3rd party support (in fact 3rd party is just coming on which means the games are 12-24 months behind) 3) They won't have the price on Microsoft as soon as they drop price which they will this year.

Since when did pointing out simple data become a matter of hating something? Is there a reason the PS3 is missing from the list (sorry I long forgot, yesterday I suppose, what the point of contention was) besides it only have 438k software sales? The DS would be included in software sales since it is a system, one that shares many of the Wiis strong points and weaknesses. Also, the formerly stark difference between consoles and handhelds is fading. Yeah Nintendo had 3 5 million+ games on a console with a 21 million user base and Sony has 2 on a 110 million user base. It is bad when you can barely push more games than a system with less than 1/5 as many units. GoW2 may be a great game but all I heard was how awesome GoW was and look at its sales, 2.5 million, the same as Animal Crossing on the GameCube. I don't care which of the two you like more, the sales are a fact. Similarly I don't think there's any point to debating "game of the year" since everyone would have a different opinion on that, though I think you're forgetting Mario Galaxy in your lineup and are incorrect that Nintendo doesn't have a chance with the critics, but we can look at sales which was my point. I don't know where you've been able to get a Wii in the US for a while but I know at least a dozen people who'd love to know where these mythical available Wiis are. The argument for why the PS2 should be included is if you mean HD will outsell SD in total, because then those "low income consumers" with their last gen systems are part of that equation. Japan is a key part of why the Wii is outselling the other two, but Japan is a part of worldwide sales. Even so the 360/PS3 did outsell the Wii in NA by a small margin though both were readily available. They both also have shown worrisome downward trends in sales but we'll need more months to be sure. No telling what the Wii drop was over, more units sent to Europe or Nintendo clearing all inventory in Dec/Jan then building it up again in Feb, holding back supply for an April blowout, but they are bought as sold as soon as they arrive so it's not a demand issue as with the HD systems. We will definitely see how many of these people buying HDTV's will also want a $600 video game system, so far the answer is not many, $400 maybe, but time will tell.

Geeze Stromprophet, someone (myself and sgstair apparently) touched a Sony fanboy nerve . Again though, please let me know where these Wiis are available because I've seen all of one Wii, the one I bought, despite store searches. Again, I know about a dozen people who have been trying without success to find one (to be fair I also know about 4 who have gotten one). I've seen a few $700 bundles on online sites and $350-400 ones on Ebay but I would hardly call that available.

Yes, it's quite possible Nintendo has held back the supply a bit; Gamestop certainly seems to think so... Besides that, you just proved my point - let's look at that again: Which, surely means they're limited by supply? It's quite literally the definition of limited by supply. For the record, in case you didn't already figure this out: "Limited by supply" = "Selling out" Points (1) and (2) here don't really seem to carry much weight here, see "Xbox 360" for reference. 3) Yes, this was a significant factor. It's still unclear how much 3rd party support the Wii has, or will have. Nintendo is still a force to be reckoned with, as far as producing games goes, though. 4) Well, the Wii already has this.... 1) And it seems to be quite stomping it into the ground... 2) This is debatable; It's both unclear how much 3rd party support is available, but it's also unclear how much is *needed*. And Wii games don't take the standard 12-24 months to design that your typical beloved "next-gen" titles require. 3) And you seem to be overlooking Nintendo's ability to do the same, if it's necessary... Quite literally, the Wii is following nearly exactly in the footsteps of the DS - Nintendo's found a strategy that works, and they're going with it. 3rd party support will come, as it has for the DS, and the Wii may already have enough developer/customer/word-of-mouth momentum to sustain it's sales. If not already, it will soon... And then, it'll be history, like the DS.