Since when did pointing out simple data become a matter of hating something? Is there a reason the PS3 is missing from the list (sorry I long forgot, yesterday I suppose, what the point of contention was) besides it only have 438k software sales? The DS would be included in software sales since it is a system, one that shares many of the Wiis strong points and weaknesses. Also, the formerly stark difference between consoles and handhelds is fading. Yeah Nintendo had 3 5 million+ games on a console with a 21 million user base and Sony has 2 on a 110 million user base. It is bad when you can barely push more games than a system with less than 1/5 as many units. GoW2 may be a great game but all I heard was how awesome GoW was and look at its sales, 2.5 million, the same as Animal Crossing on the GameCube. I don't care which of the two you like more, the sales are a fact. Similarly I don't think there's any point to debating "game of the year" since everyone would have a different opinion on that, though I think you're forgetting Mario Galaxy in your lineup and are incorrect that Nintendo doesn't have a chance with the critics, but we can look at sales which was my point. I don't know where you've been able to get a Wii in the US for a while but I know at least a dozen people who'd love to know where these mythical available Wiis are. The argument for why the PS2 should be included is if you mean HD will outsell SD in total, because then those "low income consumers" with their last gen systems are part of that equation. Japan is a key part of why the Wii is outselling the other two, but Japan is a part of worldwide sales. Even so the 360/PS3 did outsell the Wii in NA by a small margin though both were readily available. They both also have shown worrisome downward trends in sales but we'll need more months to be sure. No telling what the Wii drop was over, more units sent to Europe or Nintendo clearing all inventory in Dec/Jan then building it up again in Feb, holding back supply for an April blowout, but they are bought as sold as soon as they arrive so it's not a demand issue as with the HD systems. We will definitely see how many of these people buying HDTV's will also want a $600 video game system, so far the answer is not many, $400 maybe, but time will tell.