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disolitude on 15 December 2009
SLIisanownsystem said:
get 2 250s in SLI


Maybe down the road, this would be beneficial. I'd need a new mobo. By doing this, how much does my performance improve?



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jefforange89 on 15 December 2009

I wouldn't count on doing Crysis in 3D unless you kill the resolution, kill the quality, or get two GTX 295s in SLI or something, lol.



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nightsurge on 15 December 2009

For 3D at 1080p, you really want at least a GTX 275. To have a smooth experience, you need to be able to have 120 fps so that in 3D it is 2 streams at 60 fps.



disolitude on 15 December 2009
nightsurge said:
For 3D at 1080p, you really want at least a GTX 275. To have a smooth experience, you need to be able to have 120 fps so that in 3D it is 2 streams at 60 fps.

Its really not as bad as people think. with an 8800 GS I ran Fear 2 with 75% quality perfectly. Games like FEAR, Half Life, Left 4 Dead, Far Cry all run with 8800GS fully playable in 3D.

Now we all know Crysis is the exception, but i mean, I don't mind turning off AA (I have 1080p so I won't really miss it) and making detail medium on most games. I do think this will work pretty good with 90% of games... I have a gut feeling :)



nightsurge on 15 December 2009
disolitude said:
nightsurge said:
For 3D at 1080p, you really want at least a GTX 275. To have a smooth experience, you need to be able to have 120 fps so that in 3D it is 2 streams at 60 fps.

Its really not as bad as people think. with an 8800 GS I ran Fear 2 with 75% quality perfectly. Games like FEAR, Half Life, Left 4 Dead, Far Cry all run with 8800GS fully playable in 3D.

Now we all know Crysis is the exception, but i mean, I don't mind turning off AA (I have 1080p so I won't really miss it) and making detail medium on most games. I do think this will work pretty good with 90% of games... I have a gut feeling :)

But you said that is at 720p.... For a large TV 1080p is a must.  720p is a very low resolution for PC.



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disolitude on 15 December 2009
nightsurge said:
disolitude said:
nightsurge said:
For 3D at 1080p, you really want at least a GTX 275. To have a smooth experience, you need to be able to have 120 fps so that in 3D it is 2 streams at 60 fps.

Its really not as bad as people think. with an 8800 GS I ran Fear 2 with 75% quality perfectly. Games like FEAR, Half Life, Left 4 Dead, Far Cry all run with 8800GS fully playable in 3D.

Now we all know Crysis is the exception, but i mean, I don't mind turning off AA (I have 1080p so I won't really miss it) and making detail medium on most games. I do think this will work pretty good with 90% of games... I have a gut feeling :)

But you said that is at 720p.... For a large TV 1080p is a must.  720p is a very low resolution for PC.

Yeah, computer and games were set to 1360x768...wasn't too bad. But yeah, could use a boost for sure.  3D thing with Nvidia only works with 1080p or 1360x768 and 1280x720 so my choices are limited.



Soleron on 15 December 2009
disolitude said:
Soleron said:
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thanks for the info.

I've owned these glasses for 4 months now and I still haven't given them a fair shake. 8800 that I had worked fine with some games in 3D...like FEAR 2 and older stuff like Halo. Crysis however barely works without 3D.

I don't mind turning off AA or things like that to experience a game in 3d. Its more of a novelty than a regular gaming experience. Like I heard Avatar and Resident Evil 5 are kickass in 3D. I'd want to play that in 3D... Left 4 Dead 2 as well.

If a game is chugging in 3D badly, I guess I won't bother.

Like I said, its more of a once a week novelty than a regualr gaming obsession.

Right. Makes sense. Go for the GTS 250. It's a great value card in the sub-$150 bracket, and you won't regret buying it even if the 3D doesn't turn out to be what you want. For reference, the GTS 250 is about 50% faster than the 8800GS (renamed to the 9600GSO if you want to find reviews), so if your current framerates are below 20 on your intended setup with the 8800GS then don't expect it to be playable with the new one.

In PC hardware there's always something newer, better or cheaper around the corner and unless it's coming out that month its best to buy right away. Certainly don't obsess about possible future releases.

I'm a huge AMD fan by the way; it's not easy for me to make a GTS 250 recommendation.



disolitude on 15 December 2009
Soleron said:
disolitude said:
Soleron said:
...

thanks for the info.

I've owned these glasses for 4 months now and I still haven't given them a fair shake. 8800 that I had worked fine with some games in 3D...like FEAR 2 and older stuff like Halo. Crysis however barely works without 3D.

I don't mind turning off AA or things like that to experience a game in 3d. Its more of a novelty than a regular gaming experience. Like I heard Avatar and Resident Evil 5 are kickass in 3D. I'd want to play that in 3D... Left 4 Dead 2 as well.

If a game is chugging in 3D badly, I guess I won't bother.

Like I said, its more of a once a week novelty than a regualr gaming obsession.

Right. Makes sense. Go for the GTS 250. It's a great value card in the sub-$150 bracket, and you won't regret buying it even if the 3D doesn't turn out to be what you want. For reference, the GTS 250 is about 50% faster than the 8800GS (renamed to the 9600GSO if you want to find reviews), so if your current framerates are below 20 on your intended setup with the 8800GS then don't expect it to be playable with the new one.

In PC hardware there's always something newer, better or cheaper around the corner and unless it's coming out that month its best to buy right away. Certainly don't obsess about possible future releases.

I'm a huge AMD fan by the way; it's not easy for me to make a GTS 250 recommendation.

Thanks for the encouragement.

Yeah, sub 20 frame rate was present in crysis. Everything else ran pretty good. But your'e right, you need a 30 fps in game rate not to get a massive headache when playing it 3D. The shutter rate is still 60 hz per eye but sub 30 in game frame rate hurts my head, lol.

 



1337 Gamer on 15 December 2009

if i remember correctly the 9800 isnt much better than the 8800 ultra. So if you actually want a noticeable performance increase get the GTX 285 or something like that. Quite honestly thats the only way it will really make a difference.



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Soleron on 16 December 2009
1337 Gamer said:
if i remember correctly the 9800 isnt much better than the 8800 ultra. So if you actually want a noticeable performance increase get the GTX 285 or something like that. Quite honestly thats the only way it will really make a difference.

He doesn't have the budget. And if he did, the GTX285 is beaten by 25-30% by the $50-100 cheaper HD 5850, which also has DX11 and lower power consumption. That delta isn't worth 3D Vision.