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A_C_E on 15 December 2009
WilliamWatts said:
CGI-Quality said:
From my perspective, outside of Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy, PlayStation hasn't been the home to many HUGE sellers. It's always been about a plethora of games to play, that mostly do decent enough to warrant buzz and hype for future titles. PS3 really is no different in many respects, although there are some exclusive PS2 and PS1 franchises that performed a bit better than PS3 exclusives. Some of that has to do with the early lackluster marketing, and sole Blu-ray player purposes (meaning PS3s only bought as a movie player).

Point is, PlayStation has never been defined by HUGE sellers, but decent-great sellers who's gaming libraries are aplenty.

With all due respect and I do respect your opinion from when I was lurking here I don't feel you've addressed my points. I wasn't talking about the variety of games available but the decisions made by Sony especally in relation to the local multiplayer elements in their games. I feel they lose out on a lot of sales because they don't make as compelling a case for people to own the software in comparison to just renting it. 

This right here^^^.



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Xxain on 15 December 2009

I think SONY's biggest problem is they focus only on west or East when they make games they need to be like NINTENDO and create games with WW appeal.... theve left Japan in dust when it comes to region catering



Legend11 on 15 December 2009
CGI-Quality said:
Legend11 said:
It's surprising how small the sales are for Sony's first-party games are compared to third-party. I mean the best selling first-party game is at 6 and it probably wouldn't even have gotten there if it wasn't for bundling and the fact it pretty much had zero competition when it came out.

Lol....again with this warped sense of thinking. Tell me, what 1st party exclusives, besides Halo, have done gangbusters on the 360? By that, I mean sold at least 5mill.


Microsoft is able to take a game like Fable 2 in a genre that is niche compared ot the FPS one and manage to make it sell almost as much as Sony's best selling PS3 first-party game and if you exclude bundles it probably comes surprisingly close to passing it.



steverhcp02 on 15 December 2009

I think people are also forgetting not only how dire the PS3 situation has been up until September of this year but that there was also a lot of people buying PS3's with gameing and video on equal playing fields.

Sony's first party is fine, if we are going to talk about games selling 2-3 million as being failures then the gaming community is getting illogical and spoiled.

Its very simple. When comparing 360 users to PS3 users, the 360 users just buy more games this doesnt mean Sonys first party is in trouble or faltering, it just means 360 users buy more games.

Adding local or online multiplayer doesnt change this fact. See: Uncharted 2.




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jarrod on 15 December 2009
CGI-Quality said:
Legend11 said:
It's surprising how small the sales are for Sony's first-party games are compared to third-party. I mean the best selling first-party game is at 6 and it probably wouldn't even have gotten there if it wasn't for bundling and the fact it pretty much had zero competition when it came out.

Lol....again with this warped sense of thinking. Tell me, what 1st party exclusives, besides Halo, have done gangbusters on the 360? By that, I mean sold at least 5mill.

Gears 1-2.  Microsoft's top 5 (Halo 3, Gears, Gears 2, Fable II, ODST) would rank ahead of Sony's 1st (Resistance).  



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WilliamWatts on 15 December 2009
CGI-Quality said:
WilliamWatts said:

With all due respect and I do respect your opinion from when I was lurking here I don't feel you've addressed my points. I wasn't talking about the variety of games available but the decisions made by Sony especally in relation to the local multiplayer elements in their games. I feel they lose out on a lot of sales because they don't make as compelling a case for people to own the software in comparison to just renting it. 

But, when looking at Xbox and PlayStation exclusives, they sell comparably. This is a misconception that I continue to see. Outside of key franchises, PlayStation franchises sell very much like Xbox exclusives, and vice versa. Also, very few 3rd Party titles sell like Assassin's Creed and such. Check the data.

I agree about local multiplayer but the games sell very similar when PS3 games don't have some of those features. For your perspective to hold much water, you have to explain what franchises have "underperformed" on PS3 that don't include local multiplayer and what franchises, besides Gears, that did exceptionally well on 360 that include the local multiplayer you speak of.

Excuse me, im confused. I don't remember mentioning the Xbox 360 or its exclusives. I couldn't personally name any as I don't own the system and I don't have any interest in games I cannot personally play. I didn't really know that Gears of War had local multiplayer until you mentioned it.

My point still is that theres a tendency for games which have a lot of playable content, whether its a huge open world sandbox or if it comes with local and especially local and online multiplayer which seem to dominate the top of the charts. Furthermore games which have these features in abundance tend to be less graphically intensive than games which do not. Whilst there are exceptions the general trends indicate that the best selling games have both local and online multiplayer and further to that they aren't the best graphical showpieces in general they do sell a lot. 

Since Sony's business is to sell games consoles, games, controllers etc. Why do they seem to focus on graphics at the expense of electing to use their developers to work on local and online multiplayer content when it seems that it earns them fewer sales especially as they have a piece of the controller pie as well?



XxXProphecyXxX on 15 December 2009

@Jarrod ^^Give me a link where it says MS owns Gears of war IP plz........



Legend11 on 15 December 2009
CGI-Quality said:
Legend11 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Legend11 said:
It's surprising how small the sales are for Sony's first-party games are compared to third-party. I mean the best selling first-party game is at 6 and it probably wouldn't even have gotten there if it wasn't for bundling and the fact it pretty much had zero competition when it came out.

Lol....again with this warped sense of thinking. Tell me, what 1st party exclusives, besides Halo, have done gangbusters on the 360? By that, I mean sold at least 5mill.


Microsoft is able to take a game like Fable 2 in a genre that is niche compared ot the FPS one and manage to make it sell almost as much as Sony's best selling PS3 first-party game and if you exclude bundles it probably comes surprisingly close to passing it.

Right. Now explain Uncharted. It's not exactly in a big selling genre either. Look at how it's doing, WITHOUT bundles.


The game is getting Game of the Year awards and a lot of attention.  If it was a Microsoft tentpole title it would be a safe bet to say it would be selling a lot more right now.  Microsoft just seems to be better at advertising their big AAA games.



steverhcp02 on 15 December 2009
Legend11 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Legend11 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Legend11 said:
It's surprising how small the sales are for Sony's first-party games are compared to third-party. I mean the best selling first-party game is at 6 and it probably wouldn't even have gotten there if it wasn't for bundling and the fact it pretty much had zero competition when it came out.

Lol....again with this warped sense of thinking. Tell me, what 1st party exclusives, besides Halo, have done gangbusters on the 360? By that, I mean sold at least 5mill.


Microsoft is able to take a game like Fable 2 in a genre that is niche compared ot the FPS one and manage to make it sell almost as much as Sony's best selling PS3 first-party game and if you exclude bundles it probably comes surprisingly close to passing it.

Right. Now explain Uncharted. It's not exactly in a big selling genre either. Look at how it's doing, WITHOUT bundles.


The game is getting Game of the Year awards and a lot of attention.  If it was a Microsoft tentpole title it would be a safe bet to say it would be selling a lot more right now.  Microsoft just seems to be better at advertising their big AAA games.

I think its more to do with the userbase being more avid videogame fans, where im certain theres quite a few PS3's in living rooms as BD players too.

Its not marketing.




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Hus on 15 December 2009
jarrod said:
CGI-Quality said:
Legend11 said:
It's surprising how small the sales are for Sony's first-party games are compared to third-party. I mean the best selling first-party game is at 6 and it probably wouldn't even have gotten there if it wasn't for bundling and the fact it pretty much had zero competition when it came out.

Lol....again with this warped sense of thinking. Tell me, what 1st party exclusives, besides Halo, have done gangbusters on the 360? By that, I mean sold at least 5mill.

Gears 1-2.  Microsoft's top 5 (Halo 3, Gears, Gears 2, Fable II, ODST) would rank ahead of Sony's 1st (Resistance).  

They would untill Sonys GT comes and out ranks them all.

By the way other then Gears and Halo a 40$ demo of a Sony game out sold all other MS 1st party games this gen.