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Forums - Sales - Battle of E3 2005 games, Who will sell more??? (Alan Wake Vs Killzone 2)

kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
@wholikeswood

just say what you think about the thread and its question rather than picking on someone elses point for a change. what do you think it will sell and will it beat KZ2.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=2921464&page=1&postnum=21

Embarrassing for you.

@ Slimebeast: We have to bear in mind that there were special circumstances to UDF hitting 2.8mil (bundles, lack of competing decent software on the platform). Not that I think Alan Wake can't do UDF figures anyway.

As for Mass Effect being undertracked in Europe - it's pointless going down that route because then everyone will start saying "my favourite game is undertracked in X or Y continent" without anything to support it. Specifically in the case of ME, I highly doubt it is undertracked in Europe - the balance of US to EU sales is more or less in line with the disparity between US and EU 360 hardware totals.

not really... its natural for me to miss your posts.

Careful you don't want to "flame" anyone.



 

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kowenicki said:
Seece said:
kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
@wholikeswood

just say what you think about the thread and its question rather than picking on someone elses point for a change. what do you think it will sell and will it beat KZ2.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=2921464&page=1&postnum=21

Embarrassing for you.

@ Slimebeast: We have to bear in mind that there were special circumstances to UDF hitting 2.8mil (bundles, lack of competing decent software on the platform). Not that I think Alan Wake can't do UDF figures anyway.

As for Mass Effect being undertracked in Europe - it's pointless going down that route because then everyone will start saying "my favourite game is undertracked in X or Y continent" without anything to support it. Specifically in the case of ME, I highly doubt it is undertracked in Europe - the balance of US to EU sales is more or less in line with the disparity between US and EU 360 hardware totals.

not really... its natural for me to miss your posts.

Careful you don't want to "flame" anyone.

well if thats flaming I apologise.... i genuinely missed his post. lol

I wouldn't apologise, some people are easily offended



 

kowenicki said:
Seece said:
kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
@wholikeswood

just say what you think about the thread and its question rather than picking on someone elses point for a change. what do you think it will sell and will it beat KZ2.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=2921464&page=1&postnum=21

Embarrassing for you.

@ Slimebeast: We have to bear in mind that there were special circumstances to UDF hitting 2.8mil (bundles, lack of competing decent software on the platform). Not that I think Alan Wake can't do UDF figures anyway.

As for Mass Effect being undertracked in Europe - it's pointless going down that route because then everyone will start saying "my favourite game is undertracked in X or Y continent" without anything to support it. Specifically in the case of ME, I highly doubt it is undertracked in Europe - the balance of US to EU sales is more or less in line with the disparity between US and EU 360 hardware totals.

not really... its natural for me to miss your posts.

Careful you don't want to "flame" anyone.

well if thats flaming I apologise.... i genuinely missed his post. lol

Whether you genuinely missed my post or not is irrelevant.

Your comment ("it's natural for me to miss your posts") still implies you gloss over what I post, and that the reason for this is because my posts are trash.

@ Seece: "I wouldn't apologise, some people are easily offended" - Ooh, whom could you possibly be alluding to, hmmm?!! Seriously, don't bother with the baiting. It's very obvious and just makes you look immature.

I don't want this topic to become derailed because it's one of the more interesting threads on here at the moment. I gave my predictions straightaway on the first page to support the thread, and I think that, having thus offered my own thoughts for scrutiny, I have the right to comment on other people's predictions.

 



Killzone 2 by a large margin.




Alan Wake is limited by its genre. Survival Horror games haven't pulled big numbers since the ps1 days, and even then it was only Resident Evil that performed all that well. Resident Evil 5 sold quite nicely, but it's not really a survival horror game, and it has brand recognition spanning three generations.

Alan Wake will probably be a very good game, possibly the best survival horror title this gen by a nice margin, and it should be marketed pretty nicely by Microsoft. This should help the game to perform abnormally well for its genre, but I can't see it getting much higher than 2 million lifetime, if it even gets that high. That's more than double the sales of Dead Space on 360, but with the coverage Alan Wake is given as opposed to Dead Space, and the inevitable marketing campaign by Microsoft, I think its possible.

In the meantime, Killzone 2 will slowly inch itself closer to 3 million. It may never get there, but it'll be close.

Somewhat off topic: It's somewhat ironic how much crap Killzone 2 got for its lengthy development time when Alan Wake was announced at the same time.



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wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
Seece said:
kowenicki said:
wholikeswood said:
kowenicki said:
@wholikeswood

just say what you think about the thread and its question rather than picking on someone elses point for a change. what do you think it will sell and will it beat KZ2.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=2921464&page=1&postnum=21

Embarrassing for you.

@ Slimebeast: We have to bear in mind that there were special circumstances to UDF hitting 2.8mil (bundles, lack of competing decent software on the platform). Not that I think Alan Wake can't do UDF figures anyway.

As for Mass Effect being undertracked in Europe - it's pointless going down that route because then everyone will start saying "my favourite game is undertracked in X or Y continent" without anything to support it. Specifically in the case of ME, I highly doubt it is undertracked in Europe - the balance of US to EU sales is more or less in line with the disparity between US and EU 360 hardware totals.

not really... its natural for me to miss your posts.

Careful you don't want to "flame" anyone.

well if thats flaming I apologise.... i genuinely missed his post. lol

Whether you genuinely missed my post or not is irrelevant.

Your comment ("it's natural for me to miss your posts") still implies you gloss over what I post, and that the reason for this is because my posts are trash.

@ Seece: "I wouldn't apologise, some people are easily offended" - Ooh, whom could you possibly be alluding to, hmmm?!! Seriously, don't bother with the baiting. It's very obvious and just makes you look immature.

I don't want this topic to become derailed because it's one of the more interesting threads on here at the moment. I gave my predictions straightaway on the first page to support the thread, and I think that, having thus offered my own thoughts for scrutiny, I have the right to comment on other people's predictions.

 

stop false reporting.



 

I'd say Killzone 2, but the game's done far worse than I expected and I've learned not to count out Microsoft's 1st party hype machine. At this point, I'd say it could really go either way, Alan Wake has the publisher and platform with the better track record, Killzone has the more popular genre and (likely) bigger budget.