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@ Daffy: I believe in the NPD thread it was stated that Wal-Mart is at least estimated by NPD. There's no way NPD would estimate Wal-Mart without taking account of the Wal-Mart deal. All it means is that they don't receive actual sales data from Wal-mart. It is pretty ridiculous to think that an organisation claiming to provide accurate gaming hardware sales data for the USA would simply ignore Wal-Mart and Amazon all together.

On the Article: Interesting he says they'll "continue to remain $100 cheaper than PS3". Putting a line in the sand that Arcade will drop if PS3 drops. But will Arcade drop even if PS3 doesn't?

"we're now seeing stabilization back to more typical marketshare levels. And I think that's really driven by the fact that we have a $199 SKU." Oh, come on. Seriously? Even if PS3 under sold 360 on Black Friday it would be a wrong statement. USA marketshare average sales is 1.6:1. At best sales are stabilising at 1.1:1 in favour of 360 at the moment. That's a significant change in market share not a return to more typical levels. And of course he can only be talking about the USA given world wide 360 is behind and looking to remain that way, and that has not been 360's typical market share position for about a year.

Greenberg was pretty contemptuous about GT5. Disappointing, but I guess not unexpected. His credibility would have been better served had he simply said "GT5 will sell well, but it won't do better than Halo: Reach". I can respect that sort of comment, and he's probably right.

When a thread title mentions "PS3" and "GT5" and "bold comments" in relation to a MS exec interview, why is it surprising or worthy of criticism if people interested in PS3 and GT5 who don't normally inhabit the MS discussion forum read, comment on and are critical about some of the PR spin that in such a thread?



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Daffy said:
libellule said:
also, no walmart gift card = no NPD domination

it is like there was a NA price cut for the 360 indeed ....

If remember correctly, Wal-Mart and Amazon aren't tracked by NPD? If it's so Xbox 360 could have even much better Novemer than NPD did show. 

BUT there are ESTIMATED by NPD so they are TAKEN in count in their numbers ....

after, the estimation can be good or not, that is another question



Time to Work !

How can consumers not spend more on 360 sir?

Many people (me included) buys a cooling fan fearing the RoD issue.
A god damn wirelles antena that should be cheap costs 90$?
HD cable 50$?

That's laughable.

Now had to it the paid online. Of course gamers spend more on this platform, everything is god damn overpriced in my opinion.

The spin in microsoft coments just blew me out.



Halo may be big in NA,but GT is huge in Others



MonstaMack said:
That's why I said US. US will be Microsoft land for second place unless It's revealed the Wii can cause cancer, because honestly nothing is going to stop the Wii anytime soon.

MS has to re-think It's strategy for Europe. Maybe lower the price there instead of raising it (Isn't that what they did with the arcade?)

Japan has and always will be a lost cause outside of the occasional exclusive JRPG.

You know what? It actually could be said that it causes cancer, but then so would some PS360 models.



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Is Halo Reach really going to sell that many 360's. I would have thought all interested in that game would have one already seeing as how they probably bought Halo 3 and ODST



 

Halo: Reach is without a doubt a huge title and probably the biggest for Xbox 360 in 2010, but GT5 is the biggest PS3 game to come out since its release.. its the first full GT game this gen and has a massive Casual appeal, Halo: Reach has the bigger opening week for sure, but GT5 is all about legs..



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He thinks the price cut effects are temporary? So why has it outsold the 360 every week Worldwide since the pricecut.



gurglesletch said:
He thinks the price cut effects are temporary? So why has it outsold the 360 every week Worldwide since the pricecut.

Well, he was hardly going to focus on 360 being down YOY despite all the deals, etc. nor how PS3 has been steadily selling better since the price cut.

It's all about market perception, and he wants to spread the feeling that PS3 spike was temporary and that everything's back to normal 360 dominance over PS3 in US.  From his point of view, the more that's accepted the more its likely to become fact.  There's no denying a great performance for 360 vs it's more recent trends, and MS did well to attach so tightly to MW2, but PS3 did super well to considering its position in US, but his job is to diminish any Sony results and inflate perception of MS results.

No doubt Sony will soon enough be pointing out they had YOY growth vs 360 YOY drop, etc. etc. and seeing how they can put down 360 performance a bit.

 



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Seece said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Nintendo has some games next year, but it's not enough to even be noticed in the PS360 war. LMAO

Well little is known about what NINTY have. Though if any Wii fan says "well Zelda wii is all it takes" they're being very ignorant .. Microsoft and Sony are releasing a killer app too, of which both will sell better than Zelda.

So far the only other Wii games are SMG2 and Metroid Other M. That simply cannot beat what the PS360 have.

If we're talking strictly sales, Zelda isn't really on the map (unless it turns out to be the game I'm hoping for). "Zelda Wii is all it takes" would probably be a personal opinion on console of the year. I don't even think Zelda will come 2010, honestly.

SMG2 and Metroid aren't really a big deal for sales, either. These titles were all announced (along with Pikmin 3) to give the core something to look forward to.

They have at least one real title with potential, that being whatever game comes with the Vitality Sensor. Unlike Halo Reach or GT5 though, this is a new idea, so who knows how it'll perform...