Just because the biggest games out of the west are blockbusters which you see as having little or no creative value, doesn't mean there are no creative developers in the west.  Try out some indie games like Braid and World of Goo then come back and tell me with a straight face that there aren't any creative developers in the west.

Don't forget Tim Schafer.  He made one of the most unique games to come out this year.  The reason why Western game developers aren't trying to be more creative is because they suffer from the "use what you know" syndrome.

Even within some of the bigger western companies there's plenty of creativity.  I mean, the creativity didn't stop in the last 2 generations just because Xxain seems to think western developed games, and the genres they seem to frequent, suck.  And even in the genres he keeps bringing up, its not as if every game is a carbon copy of each other.

But its pointless to keep going on about this, as he keeps ignoring the counter-points people bring up and keeps railing on about the same point over and over as if that's all Western developers do.  Just goes to show you someone with the loudest voice and most controversial claims will get the most attention.

I agree completely, I just picked a few examples that would be impossible for a rational person to deny, thus illustrating the ludicrousness of saying that only Japanese game developers are creative.

Which is it that led last gen then?  Japan or 'the big bad western developers'?  You don't even seem to have a set argument.

I feel him. I wish I could make you all buy Vesperia and Valkyria, but you're not gonna.

Fail thread is fail thread.

and in the end, what we got from this thread is:

1.) Eastern and Western Games are Equal and its up to the person to judge their qualities.

2.) Companies should shut up about telling their consumers to "wisen" up to new genres because that's not how it works at all! Companies should cater to consumers' needs, not tell what a culture can or cannot do, or in this case, "buy". (Square Enix is getting on my nerves lately...they better hope FF13 is great or the respect i have for them will stay in the past...)

3.) Companies adapt to where the money is. So that means, western-influenced games will continue to be made while eastern-influenced games dwindle because western games sell better. (I'd like to point out that selling better does not mean its BETTER....read those words, memorize them, eat them. =P)