well yeah, if you ignore all the rest of the data.

If you also notice, it was starting to rise in 2005, and that huge spike is NOT exclusively due to the wii because it released in november and hardly had time to make such a difference.

Plus, from launch to dec 31st:

PS3 sales: 1.232M

Wii: 2.937M

ratio=2.384

price tags= 600/250

price ratio= 2.4

There you have it, PS3 contributed virtually the exact same amount to the 2006 sales as did the wii.

All that's left to count is the games sales, but the attachment rate at that point was higher for ps3 than for wii. EIther way it doesn't make that much difference, maybe 20M$ or so.

EDIT: editted the word NOT in there

EDIT2: additionally, 360 sold a lot of consoles during that period too, so we can't just count it out either.

It was up thanks to DS and Xbox360 launch. Still, I think there's no doubt that the Industry would be worse if the Wii was a traditional console.

Oh of course, there's no doubt about that. Wii has grown the industry exponentially. But it's incorrect to think that the industry was ever shrinking. It only shrinks when the end of the generation is near and people stop buying the consoles to save for the next gen ones.

But the end of generation is based on sales, so it means people lose interest in gaming and a new console must be launched to excite people. For some data I read, it seems that the Industry, if not shrinking yet, it was stagnating. Not so much in America as in Japan, but it was only a matter of time if something was not done about it.

According to Malstrom, who is wrong.

Just look at the chart for yourself. It was on the rise again. It's been on the rise since 1995 man. You can't just credit one console for "saving the industry", you have to look at the big picture. They are all contributors, and it's been consistently rising. You can't say "Oh, but it was Nintendo's vision for something different like the DS". I'm just going to say "Oh, but the ps2, ps1 blah blah" and then the argument is just a back and forth with no end in sight.

The big picture shows a continued rise, and I may add that while the wii and ds did contribute a lot recently, Nintendo had been losing sales since 95 to 04' or so. So let's not talk about who did what. Let's talk about how Malstrom is wrong instead.

Also, I should add that revenue tends to drop near the end of the gen due to dropping console prices, not disinterest. If a console releases at 400, and has an average attachment rate of 8 games per console, then the total revenue per person who bought the console in the beginning of the gen is 800$. Someone who buys the console later in the console life and only pays 200$ for the console just just a quarter off the total revenue.

Do you have sales (in units) comparison over the years, of consoles?

Revenue itself is not a good indicator of industry growth, because that is affected by economic factors such as increasing disposable income.

For example, suppose i have $100, i use that, suppose next year i have $500 and i use $200.

Statistically, you might say the industry grew, but it hasnt, it still has only me as the customer.

If you have YoY sale comparison of units for Ps3, Ps2, Ps1, Xbox, Xbox360, Wii that would be a very good indicator.

dude, what do you think this site is for lol?
This site has all the sales in a database.
Tell me you haven't looked anything up yet.

Anyway, that will take work. You can easily look it up faster than I can copy and paste everything here.

Also, you would need to look at games sales, not just consoles. You're just going to have to trust me that the industry has been growing if you don't believe me.

Just a little factoid: The ps2 has outsold almost every previously released home console combined.

lol .... I was not talking about Maltrom. Some other graphs I seen, and even Reggie conferences. Malstrom doesn't invent those numbers.

If your source is nintendo, then it's basically the same source.

"Soma said: For some data I read, it seems that the Industry, if not shrinking yet, it was stagnating. Not so much in America as in Japan, but it was only a matter of time if something was not done about it.

theprof00 said: According to Malstrom, who is wrong."

That I am going to call you on. This is according to Nintendo. They gave detailed data on this even before the Wii came out. Even before we knew of the Wiimote.