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theprof00 on 04 December 2009
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Soma said:
theprof00 said:
Soma said:
theprof00 said:
vanatos said:
I notice from your graph, that Wii was introduced in 2006, and the MASSIVE SPIKE, is at 2006+.

So i think it is correct that Wii is the prime reason (and not story games, arcade like games).

well yeah, if you ignore all the rest of the data.

If you also notice, it was starting to rise in 2005, and that huge spike is NOT exclusively due to the wii because it released in november and hardly had time to make such a difference.

Plus, from launch to dec 31st:

PS3 sales: 1.232M

Wii: 2.937M

ratio=2.384

price tags= 600/250

price ratio= 2.4

 

There you have it, PS3 contributed virtually the exact same amount to the 2006 sales as did the wii.

All that's left to count is the games sales, but the attachment rate at that point was higher for ps3 than for wii. EIther way it doesn't make that much difference, maybe 20M$ or so.

 

EDIT: editted the word NOT in there

EDIT2: additionally, 360 sold a lot of consoles during that period too, so we can't just count it out either.

 

It was up thanks to DS and Xbox360 launch. Still, I think there's no doubt that the Industry would be worse if the Wii was a traditional console.

Oh of course, there's no doubt about that. Wii has grown the industry exponentially. But it's incorrect to think that the industry was ever shrinking. It only shrinks when the end of the generation is near and people stop buying the consoles to save for the next gen ones.

 

But the end of generation is based on sales, so it means people lose interest in gaming and a new console must be launched to excite people. For some data I read, it seems that the Industry, if not shrinking yet, it was stagnating. Not so much in America as in Japan, but it was only a matter of time if something was not done about it.

 

According to Malstrom, who is wrong.

Just look at the chart for yourself. It was on the rise again. It's been on the rise since 1995 man. You can't just credit one console for "saving the industry", you have to look at the big picture. They are all contributors, and it's been consistently rising. You can't say "Oh, but it was Nintendo's vision for something different like the DS". I'm just going to say "Oh, but the ps2, ps1 blah blah" and then the argument is just a back and forth with no end in sight.

The big picture shows a continued rise, and I may add that while the wii and ds did contribute a lot recently, Nintendo had been losing sales since 95 to 04' or so. So let's not talk about who did what. Let's talk about how Malstrom is wrong instead.

Also, I should add that revenue tends to drop near the end of the gen due to dropping console prices, not disinterest. If a console releases at 400, and has an average attachment rate of 8 games per console, then the total revenue per person who bought the console in the beginning of the gen is 800$. Someone who buys the console later in the console life and only pays 200$ for the console just just a quarter off the total revenue.