I don't know which insults me more, that the current market leader gets treated like this or that many in the community just doesn't care and even go as far as to say "live with it".  I hate how I'm constantly guilt tripped into buying games I don't want, by both the 3rd parties and even fellow gamers. Why should I be forced to buy niche or outsourced spin-offs I don't want, just to 'show' the 3rd parties that I want the real experience (which only does the opposite, that I'll happily buy the inferior product and for them to make more, like what Capcom did when they announced Darkside Chronicles)?

Quite frankly, I gave up. If they want to stop shooting themselves in the foot and actually give me what I deserve I'll be there, but I will not be waiting for them or expecting this to happen. It's 3 years into the generation, and they clearly made their decision.

A very wise decision my friend

That's pretty damn close to how I feel.

Great first post.  Welcome to VGC.

1. Welcome to the site.

2. There is hope for Capcom. Monster Hunter Tri becomes the bestselling third party game in Japan that's not on a handheld (not to mention them giving it credit for helping their profits in one of their best fiscal reports), and now there are reports Capcom is porting the MT engine to the Wii, which the system supposedly couldn't handle.

I guess seeing a major game actually doing well instead of the shovelware can do that.

Offering rail shooters instead of quality FPS titles IS A problem.

Let's be honest for a second. The Condiut, Madworld, Muramasa, and NMH all sucked. They weren't good games by any real standard.

Okami sold like crap on the PS2 also. Personally I'm happy about its failure because I hate Okami with a red hot fiery passion, but that aside it's a last gen port of a bad selling game.

Metroid Prime 3 sold better than Metroid Prime 2 and according to VG chartz it sold more than Super Metroid. I have all the console Metroid games but they definitely appeal to a specific type of player and looking at the sales of the previous games it's successful by Metroid standards.

Punch Out I don't have an answer for. Its legs don't look too horribly bad, though, so it may slowly eek its way past 1mln which is never a bad thing.

A crappy game is a crappy game and I have no problems watching games like The Condiut, Okami, and Zack and Wiki flounder and die horrible deaths.  I mean was anyone honestly excited about a Dead Space rails shooter? As soon as I heard it was on rails all interest in the game dropped.  They had a young interesting franchise they could have exapanded on with the Wii but instead sat around on their asses enjoying the smell of their own farts and phoned in a spinoff like anyone actually gives a crap about the Dead Space franchise.

The Wii will probably not see a really breakout non-Nintendo game, but it's hardly Nintendo's fault that the video game industry is largely lazy uncreative hacks.

Well that's just an opinion, but i really think that those games are some of the best 3rd party efforts on the Wii. Madworld and NMH are excellent (havent played Muramasa or the Conduit yet)

People are silly thinking that games like Madworld, Muramasa, Okami or NMH would sell loads on HD twins, those games arent your typical big budget productions that sell on HD twins , they would share the fate of tens of titles that get released every week but dont appeal to the "hardcore".  

Great first post.

Looks like you feel like most of us do.

That´s the point right here

I dont think all this game sucked. I like The conduit to an extent, i have some place in my heart to MadWorld and NMH (but i dont see any appeal in Muramasa)

But the point isnt if these games sucked or not. Its the fact that these are small games, made by small teams! They are almost indie games!!!!

I love me some indie or almost indie games! But you CANT have a plataform strategy based only on small games. You GOTTA have big games to support the small ones.

And that´s what exactly what 3rd parties are NOT doing! They´re just releasing this small indie games pretending that these are the Big games. They´re not! They still indie, experimental games!

I hate Okami, and Muramasa, anda Little King Story. I can understand why a few people like it, but i cant accept that publishers cry out when these niche games dosent sell 5 million copies.

Dont know which AAA or AA tier titles your talking about but I'm glad most of the drivil didnt come to Wii. MS and Sony machines have just as much "they think it'll sell on that system" as Wii.  I glad there were no port of "Brutal legend, Bionic comammdo, Legendary, Saw, Hawx, Grid, Time Shift,Terminator, Velvit Assassin, Wheelman, Conan, Star Trek, Secret Service, Turok and a host of other "GOD AWFUL SH*T"!!!  Hell,  Wii Cheer sold more than all these titles.  Its just a Same/Bigger/Newer market to appeal to.  Franchised players will still get thier fill. Nintendo now has a more broader audiance to appeal/satisfy = keep you interested and playing.  They are doing ok but can do better as so can Sony and Microsoft.  To fully "Understand" Subtract the third and Second party titles you play then see which first party titles you play the most or where sold the most = pile one.  Add 2nd party to a seperate pile(again most played) then a 3rd pile of third party titles (most played). If your a "Hardcore" gamer you have all 3 current gen systems and play astablished franchised titles on each of those systems. One or two titles more than others and online alot.  If you a "core" gamer you have atleast two systems and play those seasonal sports and party games with friends and online.  If your a "Casual" gamer you have one of the current gen systems dont know what you want to play but play/purchase titles cause gaming this gen just got interesting enough for you to take that dive.  This audience "casual" is equal to the core and Hardcore.  Nintendo is not doing "blue Ocean crap"  Its more of a "Rolling snowball up hill"  It will still grow some times faster than you want it to (like whats happening now).  Nintendo has to keep/change casual to core and core to hardcore (maintaining interest in gaming) with thier machine leading the charge.  "Not an easy task to be done trying to please the gamer in everyone"  The Wii is a start in that direction.  AAA third party titles? Sometimes.  Established first party franchised titles?  DEFINATELY!!  New AAA, AA, or even A titles "That looks entereting enough I'm gonna purchase a game system and try it out" Yep.  How dose a corporate improve, maintain and grow gaming and gamers?  = Wii.