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kowenicki said:
CGI-Quality said:
Solid_Raiden said:
I don't see this doing 10 million. Period. EVERYONE bought Halo 3. Everyone has to try it. But not everyone who bought halo 3 liked it. The fans are always going to buy a halo game. But Halo fans don't number in the 10 millions. A halo fan would also have bought ODST and it will at least do those sales, even more because it was only an expansion. But I don't see it doing substantionally better then ODST's final numbers.

That being said. I expect it to be much better then Halo 3. But I expect less people to care.

Really? I would think it could pull off at least 8-9mill sales WW.


Everyone didnt buy Halo 3.   but yeah, maybe everyone that bought it didnt like it... but then a hell of a lot more then 10 million have bought it or played it.  Used, rentals... 

 

reach will be hugerererer  10m plus will happen.

To err is human, to ererererer is kowenicki

By the way, exactly what is Halo Reach bringing to the table that will make it be hugererererererererer?  Halo Wars couldn't even outsell Killzone 2.



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Solid_Raiden said:
kowenicki said:
CGI-Quality said:
Solid_Raiden said:
I don't see this doing 10 million. Period. EVERYONE bought Halo 3. Everyone has to try it. But not everyone who bought halo 3 liked it. The fans are always going to buy a halo game. But Halo fans don't number in the 10 millions. A halo fan would also have bought ODST and it will at least do those sales, even more because it was only an expansion. But I don't see it doing substantionally better then ODST's final numbers.

That being said. I expect it to be much better then Halo 3. But I expect less people to care.

Really? I would think it could pull off at least 8-9mill sales WW.


Everyone didnt buy Halo 3.   but yeah, maybe everyone that bought it didnt like it... but then a hell of a lot more then 10 million have bought it or played it.  Used, rentals... 

 

reach will be hugerererer  10m plus will happen.

True. But a lot (read: most) series sell more copies with their first release in a generation then the sequals that follow. For instance MGS 2 sold better then MGS3, and yet MGS4 still performed better then MGS3 also. Also, when Halo 3 released, it was THE FPS and the biggest 360 exclusive. While it is still THE 360 exclusive series, it's been replaced by MW2 as the most popular FPS. Now I'm not saying that Reach will lose a huge amount of sales because of this, but it should obviously effect it negatively in some way. Being the biggest 360 exclusive isn't nearly as important anymore, exspecially after the release of 3. In addition, it's not a numbered entry which regardless of quality might affect it negatively, exspecially after some unhappy buyers of Wars and ODST. Some people might be waiting for a full fledged number entry after those two titles. This game simply isn't as hyped as Halo 3 was. I for one bought Halo 3 and won't be buying Reach. Not new anyway. I also know quite a few people who feel the same. I'm not saying that me and a group of friends mean anything in the grand scheme of things. But I'm sure we are only a small sample of a relatively big group of people who feel the same way and it will have some kind of outcome on the sales. The final thing going agaisnt Reach, and possibly one of the biggest is that the Halo series is becoming oversaturated. When 3 released, gamers had been waiting a couple of years building up hype for the next game in the seires. Reach will have been the third halo game released in the three years following Halo 3. Look at a lot of games with such frequent releases. They gradually drop in sales.

1. Halo 2 sold more than Halo 1, so I'd be careful making a blanket statement like that.  Plus Gears 2 is ontrack to outsell Gears 1, as is Modern Warfare 2.  Never understimate the 360 shooter crowd.

2. It also doesn't release until late next year, at the earliest.  Wait until next October and then we can compare the hype levels.

3. One of those games was an "expansion" and the other was an RTS.  Are you seriously suggesting that Halo 3 fans will pass on Bungie's last huge Halo game because of an RTS?  Sorry, I just don't buy it.



De85 said:

1. Halo 2 sold more than Halo 1, so I'd be careful making a blanket statement like that.  Plus Gears 2 is ontrack to outsell Gears 1, as is Modern Warfare 2.  Never understimate the 360 shooter crowd.

2. It also doesn't release until late next year, at the earliest.  Wait until next October and then we can compare the hype levels.

3. One of those games was an "expansion" and the other was an RTS.  Are you seriously suggesting that Halo 3 fans will pass on Bungie's last huge Halo game because of an RTS?  Sorry, I just don't buy it.

I will go out and say, it will depends on what else new it brings to the table.  Will Reach like ODST exceed Halo 3?  Pretty much just a story, a new game mode, and also all the stuff in Halo 3?  I don't see Reach topping Halo 3, unless it does something major and new to cap off things.  Things like an RPG type element found in Modern Warfare, or number of players in battle dwarfing MAG.  Another possibility is an ongoing and persistent war on Breach.  If it is just a new story, and a new mode (even 5 player coop), being a lock to top Halo 3. 



Do you think it's possible that the reason you don't know a whole lot about about the game is because there isn't a lot to know at this point? The jist of what you are asking (what exactly is Halo Reach) as I see it can mostly be answered by speculation. What official details about the game has anyone heard? Not many I suspect. As this info. becomes available you can bet it won't take long to spread. You also question why people think it will sell more than Halo 3. Well what kind of answers do you expect? They are going to be speculation although I have to agree with the ones saying because it's Bungie's last full game and because MS knows how to market the shit out of Halo. It almost seems like you don't like what people are saying about the game yet you are asking for more of the same. Now if you want to know the story from the book, you should read it because it's a good book. I don't know to what detail the game will follow the book but I hope it's a lot. As far as the planetary dynamic and epic battlefield blah blah blah, I've never heard that. I actually haven't heard much more than forum speculation and fanboy OMG HALO REACH.....EPIC!!!!!
I hope it is epic and I have a lot of faith in Bungie. I' m looking forward to the VGA and to the beta. One more thing, if your Halo Reach curiosity has been so piqued then you should have been over to Bungie's site by now scouring for information.....or more speculation.

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richardhutnik said:
De85 said:

 

 

1. Halo 2 sold more than Halo 1, so I'd be careful making a blanket statement like that.  Plus Gears 2 is ontrack to outsell Gears 1, as is Modern Warfare 2.  Never understimate the 360 shooter crowd.

2. It also doesn't release until late next year, at the earliest.  Wait until next October and then we can compare the hype levels.

3. One of those games was an "expansion" and the other was an RTS.  Are you seriously suggesting that Halo 3 fans will pass on Bungie's last huge Halo game because of an RTS?  Sorry, I just don't buy it.

I will go out and say, it will depends on what else new it brings to the table.  Will Reach like ODST exceed Halo 3?  Pretty much just a story, a new game mode, and also all the stuff in Halo 3?  I don't see Reach topping Halo 3, unless it does something major and new to cap off things.  Things like an RPG type element found in Modern Warfare, or number of players in battle dwarfing MAG.  Another possibility is an ongoing and persistent war on Breach.  If it is just a new story, and a new mode (even 5 player coop), being a lock to top Halo 3. 

Agreed.  We also have to remember however that by the time Reach releases, Halo 3 will have been on the market for at least 3 years, and Bungie will have lots and lots of fan feedback to consider when making the new game.  Since I have yet to be disappointed by a bungie game I will remain optimistic about it.



richardhutnik said:
kowenicki said:
CGI-Quality said:
Solid_Raiden said:
I don't see this doing 10 million. Period. EVERYONE bought Halo 3. Everyone has to try it. But not everyone who bought halo 3 liked it. The fans are always going to buy a halo game. But Halo fans don't number in the 10 millions. A halo fan would also have bought ODST and it will at least do those sales, even more because it was only an expansion. But I don't see it doing substantionally better then ODST's final numbers.

That being said. I expect it to be much better then Halo 3. But I expect less people to care.

Really? I would think it could pull off at least 8-9mill sales WW.


Everyone didnt buy Halo 3.   but yeah, maybe everyone that bought it didnt like it... but then a hell of a lot more then 10 million have bought it or played it.  Used, rentals... 

 

reach will be hugerererer  10m plus will happen.

To err is human, to ererererer is kowenicki

By the way, exactly what is Halo Reach bringing to the table that will make it be hugererererererererer?  Halo Wars couldn't even outsell Killzone 2.

What my mate has been raving about I've understood it's gonna be so hugerererererererererer and er that it will cure cancer...or atleast be a decent game :P



Why are you comparing the sales of an RTS to Killzone 2, the most hyped shooter on the PS3? Besides Halo Wars has sold better than any other RTS on a console ever, put things in perspective when your making comparisons.

If you want to know why Halo Reach is such a big deal just read the book or look up some info in wikipedia. Comparing the game to ODST which had a one year development cycle to Reach which has a 3 year development cycle is ridiculous.

Wait until we at least get some solid info on the game before we start giving ultimatums. That would be like me trying to predict the sales of The Agent when we don't know shit about the game. Do some research on the story and sit patiently for some info on the game before making these threads.



                                           

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