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I think some people here have the opinion that most Muslims are like the ones on the left in this video. The Muslims I know are like the female Muslim on the right.

 

I'd take a dictatorship that protects my individual rights over a democracy that denies them.



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Although they are a small percentage wise minority, they are a majority in some parts of the world. I hate different interpretations of holy books....



yeah those idoits up on the video,come to our country then start trying to get the non-musloims out of the area and go about saying we need shiria law



"They will know heghan belongs to the helghast"

"England expects that everyman will do his duty"

"we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"

 

LOL.

NKAJ was't talking about all Muslims.....Watch the video and read his comment better next time.....he specifically said on the video. Also i think that 99% of Muslims would agree that those ones are idiots. Extreamists that don't correctly represent the Islamic faith.

Also he is banned because you think he is refering to all Muslims, well, you are completly wrong.



Even i as a devout muslim hate people like that.



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I hate how people purposely (and perhaps subconsciously) misinterpret this "wussy" viewpoint of allowing Muslims to have minarets. They cite that in Muslim countries they don't allow the worship of other religions, as though we support the fact that they don't allow other religions.

Well that opinion of us is complete bullshit. We condemn countries like that even more than this. This isn't a case of people like me "Fuck Switzerland because they've banned minarets, but it's ok for Iran to ban all religion except Islam because that's just how they are". I'm not saying that, nobody is saying that, we condemn those countries even more for not allowing other religions.



Pyro as Bill said:

I think some people here have the opinion that most Muslims are like the ones on the left in this video. The Muslims I know are like the female Muslim on the right.

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I'd take a dictatorship that protects my individual rights over a democracy that denies them.

Well said Pyro_as_Bill, I agree with you 100%.



Slimebeast said:
rocketpig said:
It's shocking to see some peoples' true colors come out in threads like these.

You showed your true colors as well by defending the French suburb rioters.

Where did I defend them? I said they had a good reason to revolt, not that they should start flipping cars and burning shit down.

Too bad you're banned. This was going to get fun.




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Slimebeast said:
rocketpig said:
Slimebeast said:
All this tolerance and wussyness does no good whatsoever. It only teaches foreigners to become more arrogant and demanding. Give them something and they'll just demand more. And all of a sudden the natives are the oppressed miniority and the old culture is gone. History has shown this time and time and time again.

I can't understand how all you saints are unable to see it.

America is going to be a majority Latino country in a few decades and I don't see this country's culture falling apart at the seams. In fact, we're already coming close to a non-majority culture already... some states like California already are that way.

I don't see anyone rioting in the streets of Los Angeles... unless the Lakers win a championship, that is.

 

First of all, the USA is nothing to strive for, from a European perspective. You're a melting pot, and got already big problems with sub-cultures and minorities. The atmosphere in the US big cities is nothing to strive for, with neighborhoods that are unsafe for white people to visit. 

But you were built on the concept of immigration, so it's different. You are a lot more adapted to it. You are a lot better at integrating other cultures. And luckily you have a very strong and protective Police.

Second, Latinos aren't moslems.

I love the "with neighborhoods that are unsafe for white people to visit". Have you ever been to one of these neighborhoods? I have, many times and I'm the whitest motherfucker on the planet. I've driven through South Central and while it's not a place I want to visit at 3am, there are loads of places like that all over the world. During the day, the "danger" is so blown out of proportion that it's silly. Just a few days ago I was driving through the Birmingham and Memphis "ghettos" (which I had been warned I'd be jacked if I entered) with no fear of anything. Totally mundane. Inner cities in America are portrayed to be this war-like zone and I assure you, that is not even close to being true.

You make a point about America being a melting pot and it's a valid one but in conjunction with that, I do not understand your first statement of "the USA is nothing to strive for". Wait, so we've adapted and integrated multiple cultures, the law (generally) doesn't infringe on the rights of these cultures, yet that's nothing to strive for?

Latinos aren't Moslems but there is a significant Moslem and Jewish population in Los Angeles... yet I don't see a single lawmaker advocating the banning of religious practices such as minarets or burkas. Why is that? Why is it so bloody hard to accept that people of different cultures will have differing practices and just respect that? Everywhere I visited on the west coast of the US does a pretty good job of getting along with one another... unfortunately, I wish the same could be said of the Midwest but that's another argument entirely.




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rocketpig said:
Slimebeast said:
rocketpig said:
Slimebeast said:
All this tolerance and wussyness does no good whatsoever. It only teaches foreigners to become more arrogant and demanding. Give them something and they'll just demand more. And all of a sudden the natives are the oppressed miniority and the old culture is gone. History has shown this time and time and time again.

I can't understand how all you saints are unable to see it.

America is going to be a majority Latino country in a few decades and I don't see this country's culture falling apart at the seams. In fact, we're already coming close to a non-majority culture already... some states like California already are that way.

I don't see anyone rioting in the streets of Los Angeles... unless the Lakers win a championship, that is.

 

First of all, the USA is nothing to strive for, from a European perspective. You're a melting pot, and got already big problems with sub-cultures and minorities. The atmosphere in the US big cities is nothing to strive for, with neighborhoods that are unsafe for white people to visit. 

But you were built on the concept of immigration, so it's different. You are a lot more adapted to it. You are a lot better at integrating other cultures. And luckily you have a very strong and protective Police.

Second, Latinos aren't moslems.

I love the "with neighborhoods that are unsafe for white people to visit". Have you ever been to one of these neighborhoods? I have, many times and I'm the whitest motherfucker on the planet. I've driven through South Central and while it's not a place I want to visit at 3am, there are loads of places like that all over the world. During the day, the "danger" is so blown out of proportion that it's silly. Just a few days ago I was driving through the Birmingham and Memphis "ghettos" (which I had been warned I'd be jacked if I entered) with no fear of anything. Totally mundane. Inner cities in America are portrayed to be this war-like zone and I assure you, that is not even close to being true.

You make a point about America being a melting pot and it's a valid one but in conjunction with that, I do not understand your first statement of "the USA is nothing to strive for". Wait, so we've adapted and integrated multiple cultures, the law (generally) doesn't infringe on the rights of these cultures, yet that's nothing to strive for?

Latinos aren't Moslems but there is a significant Moslem and Jewish population in Los Angeles... yet I don't see a single lawmaker advocating the banning of religious practices such as minarets or burkas. Why is that? Why is it so bloody hard to accept that people of different cultures will have differing practices and just respect that? Everywhere I visited on the west coast of the US does a pretty good job of getting along with one another... unfortunately, I wish the same could be said of the Midwest but that's another argument entirely.

Yeah, it's not so much that the area isn't safe for white people.

It's that those areas aren't safe for ANYBODY after a certain hour... and are filled with people of a certain race.

The cross racial violence just gets more attention.

Though I'm pretty sure a few senators do try and pull that crap (though from states with few actual muslims.)

It's just they get put it check fairly quickly.