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Euphoria14 said:
That is 125k in ONLY 1 region. You seem to forget that Japan + Others exist as well. We may see a 200-250k week here.

360 has NEVER lost a Black Friday to the PS3. It is an accomplishment whether you wish to belittle it or not.

I heard Milo was just a scripted demo.

Sony is also set to be profitable next year on just the PS3. It has already been stated that the Playstation family as a whole is profitable,

Also, show me a link that shows the 360 Arcade is profitable.


Last gen Sony outsold MS by 120 million. Now we have a 6-7 million lead for MS. MS wouldn't be worried about getting outsold by 10 million. You are still judging from a micro-perspective. There is no way, absolutely no way that Sony won't be the big loser this gen. Nintendo is the big winner and MS did well. Look where they came from and where they are now.

After you did so, check financial reports for the divisions. THEN tell me who should be worried about a 200k difference?

Japan is a very different market and nobody expected MS to even sell a million there but they did. Actually everybody expected Sony to dominate like they did with the PS2 but they failed.

Okay, so the PS3 "won" a black friday (excluding Nintendo). That was the black friday 2 months after a MAJOR pricecut and a redesing / relaunch of their console.

Milo was not a scripted demo, there were people playing with it. Check eurogamer or this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caceIkKKR68

And Sony said they would be profitable in 2009 as well. This means nothing to be honest. Maybe they make a small profit, but this is nowhere near the losses they made for 3 years (4 if you count R&D) in a row with the PS3.

And you know companies don't publish their numbers for single SKUs but I can show you the financial results for the EDD being positive even though there is the Zune HD making losses.



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DirtyP2002 said:
Euphoria14 said:
That is 125k in ONLY 1 region. You seem to forget that Japan + Others exist as well. We may see a 200-250k week here.

360 has NEVER lost a Black Friday to the PS3. It is an accomplishment whether you wish to belittle it or not.

I heard Milo was just a scripted demo.

Sony is also set to be profitable next year on just the PS3. It has already been stated that the Playstation family as a whole is profitable,

Also, show me a link that shows the 360 Arcade is profitable.


Last gen Sony outsold MS by 120 million. Now we have a 6-7 million lead for MS. MS wouldn't be worried about getting outsold by 10 million. You are still judging from a micro-perspective. There is no way, absolutely no way that Sony won't be the big loser this gen. Nintendo is the big winner and MS did well. Look where they came from and where they are now.

After you did so, check financial reports for the divisions. THEN tell me who should be worried about a 200k difference?

Japan is a very different market and nobody expected MS to even sell a million there but they did. Actually everybody expected Sony to dominate like they did with the PS2 but they failed.

Okay, so the PS3 "won" a black friday (excluding Nintendo). That was the black friday 2 months after a MAJOR pricecut and a redesing / relaunch of their console.

Milo was not a scripted demo, there were people playing with it. Check eurogamer or this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caceIkKKR68

And Sony said they would be profitable in 2009 as well. This means nothing to be honest. Maybe they make a small profit, but this is nowhere near the losses they made for 3 years (4 if you count R&D) in a row with the PS3.

And you know companies don't publish their numbers for single SKUs but I can show you the financial results for the EDD being positive even though there is the Zune HD making losses.

That's it, just keep belittling an accomplishment. It must be real hard for you to admit a sales shift without going off topic and attacking Sony financials.

Also, this is where I got the info on the scripted demo. I believe Kotaku and Eurogamer mention it.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=75672&page=1

 

As for your Sony losses comment. I guess the couple of profitable quarters for MS have made up the 6Billion they lost in their XBox division right?

Of course their small profit matters though right?



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Microsoft lost a hell lot of money due to RROD now they need to beat sony so they can gain a good brand for next generation, and microsoft has the cash to do that.



And yet so many people still forget that its actually sony thats million of hardware units behind and probably hundreads of millions of software behind. And isn't making a profit quarterly.

They may eventually outsell the 360. but its going to take a bloody long time and they're going to lose a whole lot more money doing it. If they achieve it at all.



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routsounmanman said:
Have people even considered the possibility of a Xbox360 Slim? That'd turn things around for a while


Considering how much space there is inside a 360, I would think it could happen. However they would need to find a way to shrink the case while keeping the heat levels down.

Maybe they will roll this out along with the Natal launch.



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The PS3 will have taken a little over 3 years to be back on par with the X360 by the end of 2009. Expect a 5.5 million gap between PS3 and X360 for December 31, 2009.
Remember the PS3 launched when the X360 had only sold 5.5 million console units in its first year on the market.
X360 Slim will not happen it would discriminate against all the existing X360 owners with incompatible HDDs.



Man someone here is gonna need to chill out.

Talks about the 360 doomed, Sony failing hard, etc... OMFG!

Why the fuck does it matter to people if the 360 is doomed or not? No it's not doomed and it won't be. And so what if it was doomed? Would that actually affect the way you play your 360? Will it cause you to burn your 360 or something? If you love gaming and entertainment, why the hell would you wanna care whether the 360 is doomed or not? JUST ENJOY PLAYING THE GAMES!!! I can't believe this 360 doomed thing even started here...



Euphoria14 said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Euphoria14 said:
That is 125k in ONLY 1 region. You seem to forget that Japan + Others exist as well. We may see a 200-250k week here.

360 has NEVER lost a Black Friday to the PS3. It is an accomplishment whether you wish to belittle it or not.

I heard Milo was just a scripted demo.

Sony is also set to be profitable next year on just the PS3. It has already been stated that the Playstation family as a whole is profitable,

Also, show me a link that shows the 360 Arcade is profitable.


Last gen Sony outsold MS by 120 million. Now we have a 6-7 million lead for MS. MS wouldn't be worried about getting outsold by 10 million. You are still judging from a micro-perspective. There is no way, absolutely no way that Sony won't be the big loser this gen. Nintendo is the big winner and MS did well. Look where they came from and where they are now.

After you did so, check financial reports for the divisions. THEN tell me who should be worried about a 200k difference?

Japan is a very different market and nobody expected MS to even sell a million there but they did. Actually everybody expected Sony to dominate like they did with the PS2 but they failed.

Okay, so the PS3 "won" a black friday (excluding Nintendo). That was the black friday 2 months after a MAJOR pricecut and a redesing / relaunch of their console.

Milo was not a scripted demo, there were people playing with it. Check eurogamer or this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caceIkKKR68

And Sony said they would be profitable in 2009 as well. This means nothing to be honest. Maybe they make a small profit, but this is nowhere near the losses they made for 3 years (4 if you count R&D) in a row with the PS3.

And you know companies don't publish their numbers for single SKUs but I can show you the financial results for the EDD being positive even though there is the Zune HD making losses.

That's it, just keep belittling an accomplishment. It must be real hard for you to admit a sales shift without going off topic and attacking Sony financials.

Also, this is where I got the info on the scripted demo. I believe Kotaku and Eurogamer mention it.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=75672&page=1

 

As for your Sony losses comment. I guess the couple of profitable quarters for MS have made up the 6Billion they lost in their XBox division right?

Of course their small profit matters though right?

financial reports are offtopic now?

There never was a 6 billion loss for the Xbox. Actually the losses of the PS3 are higher than the losses of the Xbox. And this is not even this gen. Besides that, MS used this money for building up the Xbox brand and Xbox Live. Sony lost money and destroyed some of the great reputation the Playstation brand had. That is something.

I applaud Sony for selling more than X 360, but this is a MINOR success of the major failure named PS3 (in comprehension to last gen and financially - NOT for gamers)



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routsounmanman said:
Have people even considered the possibility of a Xbox360 Slim? That'd turn things around for a while

Not in the same way Sony and Nintendo have done it.

Microsoft doesn't have a big presence in the handheld space yet, paradigm shifting is when you switch your handheld line with your regular and vice versa. The PS3 Slim got a minor logo update, and PSP9o symbolically took on PS3's technological utopia dream. PSP9o is the new PS3, and the Slim is the new PSP.

Wii is the new Gameboy, DS is the new Nintendo line. Paradigm shifting, you flip the market by up ending the tea table, but first you gotta get a good grip on both ends of it. Microsoft doesn't have that.