LMFAO mendicate bias

If it was a prediction i would have said that, i stick by them unlike your kinda aka selnor that talk shit for months then disappear after sales shut them up.

You are clearly to ignorant to discuss anything with that why i not gonna bother with you, to me this is less then a waste of time.

I don't have a kind I use my brain to make my own deductions and decisions and don't require a group or cult to think for me. Why did you even bring Selnor into this argument, you like attacking people that aren't here to defend themselves?

Again you ignore my main argument but I'll indulge you. You do understand what the concept of implying something or reading between the lines is right? If you made that thread as a discussion and not a prediction then why didn't you structure your thread as an open question? In fact why did you go so far as to predict the sales, and I quote;

Possible numbers.

Europe 7-10m (halo3 sold 7.5m in NA, GT3 did 7.14 million in NA so numbers that high are possible)
NA 5-7m
Japan/Asia 2/3m

Are you telling me that isn't a prediction, cause if you honestly think not then maybe you should go back and take some rudimentary english courses.

Also don't call out Selnor or anyone else on their predictions when you don't have the spine to back up statements you made in this very thread.

Gt fans to the rescue......
Yes, forZa does have a higher metacritic rating on a higher system. Does that mean sales fail because it hasn't beat a demo you claimed to a game when it came out out in a dead period in the ps3's life? No.

Gran turismo has two huge things going for it:

Time on the market
name


As we all know the name sells alot on it's own, it doesn't matter if the fill product turns out to be shit, people would still buy the next gran turismo. Gt5p also has time on the market going for it. Forza 3 isn't nearly as well established as gt is. Hell, last gen it was lucky to have sold as well as it did on a console that was severely hampered compared to the ps2 in terms on userbase.
Forza hasn't been out long. Stop your playstationmasturbation and see how the game sells over time. Who knows, might make you want to stfu. It's all about the legs, some games have them you know. And considering the circumstances, I believe forza has done admiraly, escpecially in terms of quality.

What is the title of the OP again?  I thought this was for sales, not wtf you'll are talking about.  Regie made a comment about sales, wrt to MW2 vs NSMB, and his estiamte is going to get smashed...Turn 10 said they think they have the best racing game on the market, the metacritic scores for both games are AAA, and the first one sold 4 million and this one has already sold 1.3 and has strong legs, so I'm not sure how it is underperforming, it had a higher Metacritic, than the last game, and it's tracking higher on sales.  Once again, anser the freaking question I'm asking, not what the fuck you want to answer...where did Turn 10 say that Forza 3 would be the best selling racing game? 

Guys, don't get too worked up fighting with the haters, some people refuse to see reason and think that they speak for the majority. 

Any rational person can see that Forza 3 is selling far faster than Forza 2 so it is an unqualified success.

@heruamon:
I already directly answered your questions a few posts below the one you answered to me.

I'll cut and paste it:

(begin)
They didn't brag explicitly it would be the best seller, but if they brag no other racer can beat theirs, and given the excellent tie ratio XB360 has, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect "the racer no other racer can beat" to beat the first weeks sales of a demo that, as you write, had lower critics scores too, and that at launch could count on a much smaller PS3 user base?

This said, F3 sold better than N4S during the first 5 weeks, both on PS3 and XB360 and even better than N4S on both the consoles combined, during week 1 and 4 and during the first 5 weeks combined, so by normal standards F3 is selling quite well, it's just that it doesn't live up to Turn 10's bragging.

Anyway, only comparing every aspect, either technical or aesthetic or economic with its true arch-rival will give us a complete picture, so we'll have to wait till Spring 2010.
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As you can read, I consider F3 sales satisfying, they just don't live up, IMVHO, to Turn 10 bragging about it being the racer nobody can beat: THEY asked for comparisons, doing so, they got them. When they brag and hype, they cannot demand only positive attention, just like when Sony bragged it got what it deserved and it will be mocked forever for that boasting about people having to get a second job to be able to afford a back then $599 PS3.

No.

(directed at the question in the title)

Why the hell was this thread allowed to stay open in the first place, just about every Forza thread covered the OP's question if he bothered to read them. Isn't it about time the Forza vs GT crap was canned until closer to GT's release date now.

No...you didn't answer my question.  The comment to me was Google it...Google WHAT?  And NO...you can say just because the game is very good, it's going to outsell a different game on a different console.  Are you freaking kidding me...that's ridiculous...I can see if we were talking about two different racing games on the same console.  Sorry, but your extrapolation makes no sense to me.

^^
Googling that link you just get a wide assortment of Turn 10 bragging, if you think the comparison is not possible and the extrapolation doesn't make sense, well, sorry, we simply think different from each other. Turn 10 obviously thinks different from you too, as comparisons with every other racer, whatever the platform, seems to be their obsession. And if the answer I gave you in the other post doesn't satify you, sorry again, if we don't agree on the premises of the reasoning there's nothing we can do about it.