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SeriousWB said:
Since people think the FF main series is bombing so much (I agree on this point btw), why would you want it to come to Nintendo? Wont is just continue to bomb on the Nintendo system?

Agreed. It's the "cool" thing right now to dislike FF for some people and some of those people saying it don't mean it.

Other Wii owners consider a feather in their figurative hats.

Some, like me, just stopped caring a long time ago.

May the Square Soft that brought me the joyous Chrono Trigger rest in peace.



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It could.

I doubt it will though. Even if FF13 bombs.

The Final Fantasy crew have been graphic whores for a long time now to the detriment of the rest of the aspects of their games.



SeriousWB said:
Since people think the FF main series is bombing so much (I agree on this point btw), why would you want it to come to Nintendo? Wont is just continue to bomb on the Nintendo system?

 

Quality wise anyway. FF will still move games and consoles despite being a bomb as far as classic RPG fans think.  I don't think suddenly not having the extra graphic power to whore out will bring back their talent though.

So since i really don't give a damn which of the 360, Wii or PS3 win (Other then it being a fascinating thing to watch) I hope FF main franchise moves to the Dreamcast.  That system didn't sell enough consoles considering how awesome and groundbreaking it was.



Words Of Wisdom said:
SeriousWB said:
Since people think the FF main series is bombing so much (I agree on this point btw), why would you want it to come to Nintendo? Wont is just continue to bomb on the Nintendo system?

Agreed. It's the "cool" thing right now to dislike FF for some people and some of those people saying it don't mean it.

Other Wii owners consider a feather in their figurative hats.

Some, like me, just stopped caring a long time ago.

May the Square Soft that brought me the joyous Chrono Trigger rest in peace.


 I'd have to disagree. There's a ton of legitimate complaints that one could bring against the FF series, not the least of which is the fact that the game underneath all of that glitz and glamour is largely boring. Most people who dislike the FF series... actually DO dislike the FF series for good reason.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that people's nostalgia for the "old" Squaresoft has more to do with childhood nostalgia than anything else. Square's 8- and 16-bit RPGs were mostly monotonous grindfests, as were their PSX-generation RPGs, minus a few gems (FF: Tactics, Parasite Eve, and Vagrant Story for all its flaws). The only way in which the "new" Square is different from the "old" Square is that the "new" Square isn't making games when you were 12 years old anymore.



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I think, ultimately whether FFXIV comes to the Wii or not ultimately depends on one thing - the almighty dollar.  If SquareEnix thinks they'll reach a broader audience and have better sales on Wii (not to mention half the development costs) then it's quite likely that will happen.

However, I think it's more likely to become multi-console PS3/360 than ever come to the Wii. 



 

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The only way in which the "new" Square is different from the "old" Square is that the "new" Square isn't making games when you were 12 years old anymore.

That's just not the case. "Golden Age" Square--which for me is roughly from the beginning of the PSX era to just before FFVIII (I suppose you could stretch it back further if you wanted, though I'm personally not a big fan of their SNES work)--Golden Age Square made games completely unlike anything they would make today. Part of the difference is the loss in talent they've suffered since the turn of the century, and part of it is the ultra-cautious stance they've taken since the Spirits Within disaster, but their output has fundamentally changed. 10 years ago Square was known as an innovative, revolutionary developer, a pioneer of the 3D era. Games like Tobal, Einhander, Bushido Blade, and FFVII were the proof of that. And even when they weren't precisely innovating, they were at least attempting new intellectual properties that often turned out brilliantly--Brave Fencer Musashi and FF Tactics were some of these. Today, Square is a running joke to a lot of people: the company that just rehashes the same games again and again--remakes and sequels, remakes and sequels. This is a fundamental change in their strategy, and not just something in people's imaginations. And last year, Square lost what was perhaps its last truly great mind, Yasumi Matsuno. Where they'll go from here, I don't know.

But for all of that, I would argue that the main FF series has managed to stay fresh and fun to play through it all. Even as they've stagnated almost everywhere else, they've kept that one gem bright. FFXII, if you ask me, was the best entry in the series since VII. A lot of people disagree, I know, but these people are just... wrong.

Maybe this generation, Square will enter another renaissance, and some new stars will rise up to replace the old ones. Or maybe XII was a fluke, and now without Matsuno and Sakaguchi both, they're truly lost.



Square's Traditional "Golden" Age: FF-FF6

Square's Main Stream "Golden" Age: FF7-FF9

Square's turning Point: FF Spirits Within

Square's Decline: FF10-Present



Garcian Smith said:

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that people's nostalgia for the "old" Squaresoft has more to do with childhood nostalgia than anything else. Square's 8- and 16-bit RPGs were mostly monotonous grindfests, as were their PSX-generation RPGs, minus a few gems (FF: Tactics, Parasite Eve, and Vagrant Story for all its flaws). The only way in which the "new" Square is different from the "old" Square is that the "new" Square isn't making games when you were 12 years old anymore.



Really?  Which Square RPGs from the SNES era were grind-fests?