PS3 SIGNIFICANTLY Outsold Xbox 360 on Black Friday!!!!!

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Euphoria14 on 29 November 2009

Paul said:

Xoj said:

Paul said:
Funny how the wii outsells the PS3 by 400,000 units but it's a big deal that the PS3 outsold the 360 by 60,000.

On top of that Sony took a massive loss giving away 2 games with most of the PS3s sold. I thought they were supposed to make up the loss on the hardware by making money on the software. Hard to make money when you're giving it away for free.

no they didn't since all games are third party. at much the disc and few royalties.

Only one of the games was third party, the rest were first. My point was that they will likely sell less software which they make a profit on because people are less likely to buy more games when they already got two with the PS3.

I know Batman was the third party, but isn't Ratchet and Clank a 2nd party title since Sony owns the IP and Insomniac is an independant studio?

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Xoj on 29 November 2009

Euphoria14 said:

Xoj said:

Paul said:
Funny how the wii outsells the PS3 by 400,000 units but it's a big deal that the PS3 outsold the 360 by 60,000.

On top of that Sony took a massive loss giving away 2 games with most of the PS3s sold. I thought they were supposed to make up the loss on the hardware by making money on the software. Hard to make money when you're giving it away for free.

no they didn't since all games are third party. at much the disc and few royalties.

I think you mean first party.

oops was trying to say are not third party lol

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Hus on 29 November 2009

Had the supply been there the PS3 would have significantly out sold it, but no.

its just kick its ass in its own market.

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letsdance on 29 November 2009

Little glimpse of how black friday went this year. My store projected sales were 210k. This was more than last years sales.... we got to 340k. Its astonishing.

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letsdance on 29 November 2009

Euphoria14 said:

Paul said:

Xoj said:

Paul said:
Funny how the wii outsells the PS3 by 400,000 units but it's a big deal that the PS3 outsold the 360 by 60,000.

On top of that Sony took a massive loss giving away 2 games with most of the PS3s sold. I thought they were supposed to make up the loss on the hardware by making money on the software. Hard to make money when you're giving it away for free.

no they didn't since all games are third party. at much the disc and few royalties.

Only one of the games was third party, the rest were first. My point was that they will likely sell less software which they make a profit on because people are less likely to buy more games when they already got two with the PS3.

I know Batman was the third party, but isn't Ratchet and Clank a 2nd party title since Sony owns the IP and Insomniac is an independant studio?

...were these even official bundles? If not then its useless talking about it since it would be the store trying to be competitive and convince people to shop there instead.

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Euphoria14 on 29 November 2009

@Letsdance

Not sure about Bestbuy bundle with LBP and Ratchet, but I am pretty positive that the Walmart bundle with Batman, Dark Knight and Infamous was official. It was on the Box.

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binary solo on 29 November 2009

ajaghvajagh said:

leo-j said:

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So I'm guessing:

PS3 - 575k-600k

X360 - 475k-500k

So you expect ps3 hardware to go down in others

Edit: OH SHIT I was looking at X360 others numbers LOL (which is around 135k)

Woops, my bad lol. Ok heres my updated prediction:

Americas 425k

Others 205k+

Japan 32k

Total: 660k-700k

Still the same for 360 (475-500k)

X360 outsold by around 200k :o

So you're predicting only an 8% lift for Others and 0% for Japan? I would think more like a double digit difference between WE 21 Nov and 28 Nov is on the cards for Others. For Japan you might be right, it could flatten for WE 28 Nov and then start to rise from there. For Others I'd suggest slightly higher, possibly up to 220K at the high end (16% week on week increase).

And wow! I just noticed that if PS3 does reach 450K for BF week then that is double what it did on the week before Christmas in 2008. And the week before Christmas is a bigger sales week by about 15% on average than BF week. So PS3 pre-Christmas week (WE 20 Dec) in Americas should be over 500K for 2009. Because that is FFXIII week in Japan we should see a big week from Japan too, and in Others the 2008/2009 YOY sales increases are really going up so pre-Christmas week in Others should be close to or over 400K (actually because Others outsells America for PS3 most weeks, including in the holiday period, Others might top 500K in the pre-Christmas week). A million selling week for PS3 in 2009 is still on the cards it seems. FFXIII in Japan should just about guarantee it. But even without FFXIII in Japan PS3 could do it with America and Others sales alone, if the current momentum continues.

Wii should have a 1 million week in America alone pre-Christmas, just like 2008.

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