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Twlight must be THE SHIT going by boutros' measure. Greatest literary vampre work since Bram Stoker.....

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Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

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gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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Boutros said:

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Ok lol.

Well I wouldn't. I would try to make it so that it would represent the majority of people's opinion.

That's the difference between the way I think and the way you think I guess.

And that's fine. I respect that.

But you have to understand that when you do that, you'e still (assuming you do all the necessary research) objectively stating a subjective opinion.



Boutros said:
Khuutra said:
Boutros said:

Why would I be wrong? You are as wrong as I am lol

And I didn't say that gathering together a lot of opinions makes them objective. I said it makes them more objective as a whole.

 

 

My objective/subjective meter:

Subjective |1 opinion----------------2 opinions---------------------------------100 opinions-----------------------------1000 opinions-------------| Objective

 

But it will never reach the perfect objectivity.

 

That's how I see it.

Yes, but you're wrong, because a collection of subjective opinions does not make them objective, it just makes the statement of the fact of those opinions objective, but if that's the case then the statement of any opinions is objctive, i.e. "my game of 2006 is Wii Sports" is an objective statement about my own opinions, but my opinions are still subjective.

No, I am not wrong in this case, it's a simple fact of the necessary difference between subjectivity and objectivity.

But the thing is that I agree with pretty much everything you've said but when I read your posts, I don't see what makes the things I've said wrong.

 

Tell me, what would you do if someone (from a prestigious webiste or magazine) asks you to make a top 10 Wii games?

Would you base this top 10 on your opinion alone?

 


I get what you mean, but trying to make a list that by your terms would be more "objective" is simply creating a list that you know most people will agree with you, its still subjective, its just not answering the question: "your top ten" but answering "what is the top ten list of most people".

Going by what most people think isnt objective, there may be objective measures of certain aspects of games, music, movies but the way we assign importance to those objective measures is subjective.



2000 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
2001 - Super Smash Brothers Melee (Alt. Paper Mario)
2002 - Super Mario Sunshine
2003 - Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (Alt. The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker)
2004 - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Alt, Mario Party 6)
2005 - Mario Kart DS (Alt. Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat)
2006 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
2007 - Super Mario Galaxy (Alt. The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass)
2008 - Mario Kart Wii (Alt. Super Smash Brothers Brawl)
2009 - New Super Mario Brothers Wii

 

All Time: Mario Kart Wii, with Majora's Mask and Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door close behind.



2000 - Final Fantasy IX
2001 - Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
2002 - Warcraft 3 (My most played game EVER!)
2003 - Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne
2004 - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2005 - God of War
2006 - Shadow of the Colossus
2007 - Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
2008 - Persona 3 FES
2009 - Assassin's Creed 2*

*probably :b



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Khuutra said:
Boutros said:

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Ok lol.

Well I wouldn't. I would try to make it so that it would represent the majority of people's opinion.

That's the difference between the way I think and the way you think I guess.

And that's fine. I respect that.

But you have to understand that when you do that, you'e still (assuming you do all the necessary research) objectively stating a subjective opinion.

Yes I do understand that but for me, objectively stating a subjective opinion is what I call objective because otherwise nothing would be objective imo.



vlad321 said:
Twlight must be THE SHIT going by boutros' measure. Greatest literary vampre work since Bram Stoker.....

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Most girls are not that crazy over the movies but most of them loved the books though.



In No Order

Metal Gear solid 3
Metal Gear Solid 4
Okami
Half Life 2
Dead Rising
Super Mario Galaxy
Shadow of the collossus
Uncharted 2
Battlefield 2
Counter Strike



Boutros said:

Yes I do understand that but for me, objectively stating a subjective opinion is what I call objective because otherwise nothing would be objective imo.

Well you're objectively wrong.



pastro243 said:
Boutros said:
Khuutra said:
Boutros said:

Why would I be wrong? You are as wrong as I am lol

And I didn't say that gathering together a lot of opinions makes them objective. I said it makes them more objective as a whole.

 

 

My objective/subjective meter:

Subjective |1 opinion----------------2 opinions---------------------------------100 opinions-----------------------------1000 opinions-------------| Objective

 

But it will never reach the perfect objectivity.

 

That's how I see it.

Yes, but you're wrong, because a collection of subjective opinions does not make them objective, it just makes the statement of the fact of those opinions objective, but if that's the case then the statement of any opinions is objctive, i.e. "my game of 2006 is Wii Sports" is an objective statement about my own opinions, but my opinions are still subjective.

No, I am not wrong in this case, it's a simple fact of the necessary difference between subjectivity and objectivity.

But the thing is that I agree with pretty much everything you've said but when I read your posts, I don't see what makes the things I've said wrong.

 

Tell me, what would you do if someone (from a prestigious webiste or magazine) asks you to make a top 10 Wii games?

Would you base this top 10 on your opinion alone?

 


I get what you mean, but trying to make a list that by your terms would be more "objective" is simply creating a list that you know most people will agree with you, its still subjective, its just not answering the question: "your top ten" but answering "what is the top ten list of most people".

Going by what most people think isnt objective, there may be objective measures of certain aspects of games, music, movies but the way we assign importance to those objective measures is subjective.

Yeah it's still subjective but it's a little more objective and a little less subjective than one opinion alone.