I can add a note about that in substance.

I agree that this is probably the best way to do it - though I don't know how the mods will react.

And the rules list looks fine for a first draft. I can't think of anything that's really missing, but you might want to get Gnizmo to look.

I might suggest adding in the "exclusive" rules into it, though, and de-stickying that thread. You could make a stickied topic "Forum Rules" and stick it at the top of pretty much every forum - yes I kknow it's redundant, but it also means people will definitely see it no matter what.

Heh, and to think I was kind to you, you start insulting other members and was banned for it, then made an alt just to come say "fuck you" to me, which I perma'd the alt and decided to be nice and not extend your ban, maybe I should have :P

I de-stickied and locked it, but I'm leaving it linked. I feel it's easier to read in that format than it would be if pasted directly into the forum rules, but if others agree I'll try to find a way to work it in.

I'll consider stickying the forum rules in topics.

nice rules update naz.

Also, one thing I want to point out that people complain about but I feel is unjustified at times. On occasion (like right now) I've read only the 1st page but felt a reply was needed, and the person above me may or may not be trolling/flaming/posting porn. Either way, I've responded after an infraction has no bearing on if I've thought a post was in the wrong. If you have a problem with a post report it, however just because you saw no action doesn't mean there wasn't mod/user interaction going on.

As for saying you won't report as it would be too much work, well then don't complain if nothing happens. There is a limit to the number of moderators we can have and how much we can monitor.

EDIT: lol at who posted above me

Is reporting every instance of rule-breaking really feasible? Given how many people like to make reports (I've heard a bunch mention it before and I partake myself) and how many rule-breaking posts there are, would this create a queue that the mods might ot be able to deal with in a timely fashion?

I guess what I'm asking here is if it is either necessary or wise to report everything that "merits" reporting.

The rules are looking much much better from my perspective. All the major ban reasons appear to be covered now which was the biggest issue imo. I do like how the ban system is explained more thoroughly. It does mean I need to update my sig. I probably should have anyways, but its a borderline issue.

I do have one suggestion to help reduce the perception of users getting away with breaking rules. It would require a potentially non-trivial code change though so it might not be workable. Upon closing a petition have an automatic message sent saying the post was either not breaking the rules, or that appropriate action was taken. This may take more time than it is worth to implement though. This might also help promote more consistent reporting.

well, first off, if you start flooding the mod queue, there are updates that could be made to simplify our lives yet still allow you to report. Secondly, if we are getting to many reports and they are legitimate, then that means we need more mods. From the user perspective, if you have a problem with a post, report it and explain what your problem is.

Well, I wouldn't think that the mods will get to know every rule breaking instance otherwise, so I guess it's the only way. I think it would be good if the system wouldn't let you report a post that has already been reported, but I guess that until that's put into practice, mods won't have other way than to get a full queue. After all, I think it's better to delay it a bit than to completely miss a bannable offense, at least in my opinion.

From my part, I try to report everything I see

I read through the new rules update and it's straightforward and easy to understand. Keep up the good work everyone!
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