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I definately think they are talking about the successor to the PSP and not the PS4.  The chips are used in cellphones, and if I am not mistaken no cell phone graphics chip is more powerful than the current generation of consoles.  So that would live me to believe that they are merely talking about the psp and not the ps4.



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Netyaroze said:

Hmm afte this artikle the PS3 gets a GPU not from Nvidia and not from ATI but from IMGTEC. They said the PowerVR chip with the TBDR technology was the reason why the DC had so extremly good Graphics back in 1998. And they said that for the PSP2 they will use IMGTEC too but it will be a 5XTseries chip while the PS4 gets a high End 6 series chip with unknown specs. They said the IMGTEC chip has a special technology called TBDR and this means the IMGTEC Chip can have 3.5 times the power of a same sized Ati/Nvida chip despite it will have the same costs. They said that the PS3 GPU was the weak spot of the PS3. But the Cell is such a powerful beast that it makes up the weakness from the GPU.

Would it be a good decision to go for IMGTEC instead of Nvidia/Ati ?

And is this TBDR Technology really that good that it can beat comparable Ati/Nvdia chips with a faktor of 3.5 ?

 

TBDR Technology anyone know what the TBDR mean? The only thing I can think of is: to be determined.



I still think Sony may forgo the next battle and just stick with the PS3 till 2016. I mean the hardware is way ahead of its time and the 720/WiiHD can't possibly out do it by too much. Why waste all that money on R&D and launching a new system when the existing one has nearly the same graphical fire power as well as an established user base?



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Joelcool7 said:

I still think Sony may forgo the next battle and just stick with the PS3 till 2016. I mean the hardware is way ahead of its time and the 720/WiiHD can't possibly out do it by too much. Why waste all that money on R&D and launching a new system when the existing one has nearly the same graphical fire power as well as an established user base?

Not really.

GPU is extremely dated, and the console is severely lacking in memory - it shows today, and it'll show like hell in the years to come.



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Joelcool7 said:

I still think Sony may forgo the next battle and just stick with the PS3 till 2016. I mean the hardware is way ahead of its time and the 720/WiiHD can't possibly out do it by too much. Why waste all that money on R&D and launching a new system when the existing one has nearly the same graphical fire power as well as an established user base?

Not really.

GPU is extremely dated, and the console is severely lacking in memory - it shows today, and it'll show like hell in the years to come.

devs get around the whole memory issuing by ofloading alot of the work through the spu's, does not anyone do their research here, and if it is severely lacking in memory please explain why ps3 has been producing better games since uncharted 1 was released, and the xbox has still not outdone that never mind uncharted 2, killzone 2, and next to come is god of war 3.



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If Sony does try to sit out the next gen, that means they are in dire financial straits and are essentially dead, as they will see little or no support from third party devs



 

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http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/6173.html

It still seems way too early to be talking about the PlayStation 4 and yet, rumored news continues to pop up everywhere.

The latest is big, if it proves true: according to European source PS3Clan, it seems SCEI "has officially chosen" the technical setup for their next PlayStation iteration, which supposedly - depending on if you believe the translation - will launch in 2012. The choice? The PowerVR Series 6 by Imagination Technologies that utilizes a technology known as "TBDR," which is "3-5 times better than a competitive level nVidia/ATI Graphics card." Evidently, Sega used TBDR to help power the old Sega Dreamcast and if you remember, that console was definitely ahead of its time in the visual department. But perhaps the most interesting part about all of this is that Sony will retain the Cell processor currently in all PS3s; this new piece of advanced technology from Imagination will work with the Cell. The quote in question is as follows, although you may wish to take it with a grain of salt without any official information:

"The PlayStation 4 shall use a high end variant of the 6 Series line. Performance, specifications and features are at this time unknown. The Series 6 shall receive an official announcement from IMGTEC sometime in 2010, with initial models targeting the smartphone and netbook sector."

On top of which, the rumor gets bigger by saying that SCEI has furthered opted to work with IMGTEC for the next iteration of the PSP; the new handheld will get the benefit of the Series 5XT. All of this may sound like complete gibberish unless you're really into hardware or programming but if it's all true, this is the first solid piece of technical information we've seen concerning the PS4. The only doubt we have is whether or not it'll be available by 2012... However, if you think about it, the time frame would be in line with the last generation; the PS2 launched in late October and the PS3 launched in November of 2006. So you never know.




 

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2012 makes sense for the PS4, as Sony is in third place and losing money on the PS3 still, and likely won't even break even if they have to engage in a price war with MS



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Avinash_Tyagi said:
If Sony does try to sit out the next gen, that means they are in dire financial straits and are essentially dead, as they will see little or no support from third party devs

go troll elsewhere do you have any facts to back up any of your statements??

their plan is for 10 years of support for ps3, it is too early for the next console, maybe in 2 years time they will start planning the ps4, by which time they should be making profit again.

personally i love their 10 year plan as i can't afford to upgrade less than every 5 years lol.



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sadly videologic/NEC/powervr whatever its called now is concentrating on producing products for the mobile market.. hence the iphone/touch inclusion..I doubt they'd be pumping anything into the PS4.... the last big hurrah they had was the kyro2 on the PC AND THE POWERVR on the Naomi/dreamcast.. I think SONY is going to stick with nvidia for now.. given that ATI is making beds with ninty/MS...



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