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jneul said:
yes ieven i know pre-orders are going mad for ffxiii, Avinash_Tyagi should quit posting biased comments, ffxiii will sell more than ffxii, as it has returned to the formula we all love more (they listened to the fans yay)

MAN the low userbase wont allow it to sell more than XII!



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zarx said:
Jouan said:

For the record, this guy said that Sega would release Dreamcast 2. Never happened.

And about the PS4 processor, he says IBM Power7 which sounds unlikely. This processor is not a lot more powerful than any other. I just has a huge cache and is very easy to parallelize which sounds useless for a game console.

I think it's bullshit...

the Dreamcast 2 is coming damit stop lying.

 

why don't you think the Power7 CPUs will be not a lot more powerful than other CPUs IBM have demoed 8 cored Power7 chips running at 5Ghz (4Ghz would be the highist that would be used in the PS4) and it is capable of performing 4 operations per cycle. even 3 core variants would be over 10X more powerful than the CELL in the PS3 at floating point calcs, and that is what the CELL was designed to do and it was better at it than any other CPU of it's time. in other types of procesing the power7 should be upto 20X better than the CELL as it's a much more well rounded achitecture and much simpeler than the CELL to develop for. Sony thought that the CELL would be the wave of the future and take over the computing world but it had a lot of problems and CPU architecture has moved on some inovations will be used but not many.

Well, in raw power, the CELL is more powerful.

In terms of ease to program, the Power7 is probably easier because you don't have to deal with SPUs but once again, what really makes the Power7 chip great in the global shared memory space. Something that the PS4 won't ever care about.

The processor of the PS4 could be based on the Power7 architecture, but probably with a LOT smaller cache and without support of global shared memory space. 

If that's the case, it's not such an impressive CPU anyway. I like Power processor for their clean instruction set and I would be happy if they go done this way but once again, that's not a major step in the CPU area.



well if you aren't using double precision and the power 7 is a far more advanced CPU than the CELL I mean each SPE in the can put out 25Gflops single precision where as the power7 can do 32Gflops per core double precision. also the power7 cores are much more versatile than SPEs and in general computing (not encoding video) power7 cores are much better.



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ChrisIsNotSexy said:
jneul said:
yes ieven i know pre-orders are going mad for ffxiii, Avinash_Tyagi should quit posting biased comments, ffxiii will sell more than ffxii, as it has returned to the formula we all love more (they listened to the fans yay)

MAN the low userbase wont allow it to sell more than XII!

i mean on day one in japan, it has a good chance as the pre-orders have already surpassed that of ffxii, but anyways we shall see



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hmm I wonder what CPU Microsoft will use for their next console? different power7, modified xenon or a AMD/Intel CPU to bring it more in line with PCs



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jneul said:
ChrisIsNotSexy said:
jneul said:
yes ieven i know pre-orders are going mad for ffxiii, Avinash_Tyagi should quit posting biased comments, ffxiii will sell more than ffxii, as it has returned to the formula we all love more (they listened to the fans yay)

MAN the low userbase wont allow it to sell more than XII!

i mean on day one in japan, it has a good chance as the pre-orders have already surpassed that of ffxii, but anyways we shall see

Yeah i was talking about Japan,day one for sure,but not the whole first week.

If that would happen,I'd be amazingly surprised



yeah i also agree, plus don't forget alot of people from europe will be importing this baby lol, and the user base is alot higher in europe lol

i am waiting for the europe version as it's getting released in march (cross fingers we all know s-e for their delays lol)



it's the future of handheld

PS VITA = LIFE

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jneul said:

yeah i also agree, plus don't forget alot of people from europe will be importing this baby lol, and the user base is alot higher in europe lol

i am waiting for the europe version as it's getting released in march (cross fingers we all know s-e for their delays lol)

You have no ideea that at the time FF XII released,PS2 was having a userbase of 20 million in Japan only?



^^ yes i do i am 30 i have owned all three consoles, i am not comparing user base's (between ps2 ans ps3, because that is just mad!), but i think ffxiii will be more popular, ffxii was hated by alot of people by straying away from what they loved.
I could be very wrong though as you said the user base was huge when ffxii dropped.



it's the future of handheld

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zarx said:
well if you aren't using double precision and the power 7 is a far more advanced CPU than the CELL I mean each SPE in the can put out 25Gflops single precision where as the power7 can do 32Gflops per core double precision. also the power7 cores are much more versatile than SPEs and in general computing (not encoding video) power7 cores are much better.

You don't need double precision in games. Actually, we often use half precision for performance optimizations.

It is true that Power7 should be a lot more versatile but the deficit in raw performance will need to be offset by the GPU then.

The GPU of the PS3 is crap. Without the Cell, it couldn't match the performance of the 360.

If the PS4 is about to put its dime in the GPU that's fine I guess. Although, I still think Power7 benefits don't match the need of consoles. If they want easy to use and powerful general computing power, they might take a look at x86 processors then.