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Garnett said:
NJ5 said:
Garnett said:

Heres the thing,With XBL you pay $50 every year, with the SLIM you pay the extra $100 up front for online.

Maybe from the gamer perspective, but not from Sony's as the PS3 is surely more expensive to build than the 360.

 

Surely Blu Ray doesnt cost that much more to build.

Not that much more, but still more. There's also the wireless and the more expensive CPU.

 



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£6.50. I don't know how Sony copes. I could buy 6 loaves of bread for that. Or 130 giant cola bottles. It's a lot of money.



NJ5 said:
Garnett said:
NJ5 said:
Garnett said:

Heres the thing,With XBL you pay $50 every year, with the SLIM you pay the extra $100 up front for online.

Maybe from the gamer perspective, but not from Sony's as the PS3 is surely more expensive to build than the 360.

 

Surely Blu Ray doesnt cost that much more to build.

Not that much more, but still more. There's also the wireless and the more expensive CPU.

 

Yah, BR, Wifi, CPU I imagine easily account for difference.  The consoles don't factor in, anyway.  MS has established Live as having a fee for online, and Sony hasn't, that's all.  However Sony does charge for content being on PSN plus is gets money via Home transactions, premium themes and stuff like Quore.

In a sense, if you took everything both Live and PSN has to offer, you're paying money for the privilage, just via slightly different models.

 



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iBlah said:
Sony charges the publishers, I think its $0.1 per gig downloaded?? I'm more concerned about what happens when PSN userbase grows so big that publishers can no longer afford to publish on PSN, especially free stuff like demos.

they stopped charging that fees a few months ago



Garnett said:
NJ5 said:
Garnett said:

Heres the thing,With XBL you pay $50 every year, with the SLIM you pay the extra $100 up front for online.

Maybe from the gamer perspective, but not from Sony's as the PS3 is surely more expensive to build than the 360.

 

Surely Blu Ray doesnt cost that much more to build.

yeah but the whole system is more expensive to make than 360.PS3 doesn't only comprise of blu-ray



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Solid_Snake4RD said:
iBlah said:
Sony charges the publishers, I think its $0.1 per gig downloaded?? I'm more concerned about what happens when PSN userbase grows so big that publishers can no longer afford to publish on PSN, especially free stuff like demos.

they stopped charging that fees a few months ago

o, I didn't know that.



 

NJ5 said:
Garnett said:
NJ5 said:
Garnett said:

Heres the thing,With XBL you pay $50 every year, with the SLIM you pay the extra $100 up front for online.

Maybe from the gamer perspective, but not from Sony's as the PS3 is surely more expensive to build than the 360.

 

Surely Blu Ray doesnt cost that much more to build.

Not that much more, but still more. There's also the wireless and the more expensive CPU.

 

Sony make alot of money, such as the money Sony will make from Software sales, Downloads (Including the money they make on home), the money they make on Qore, the money they make on PSP and PS2 sales which sell for profit, the money they make on PSP and PS2 software & Downloads, they money they make on merch (not much but still something), the money that comes down from Sony HQ, TV sales, Video Cameras, Sony Erricson, Walkman. If they can afford to be sponsor for the Football League, then they can afford to keep their gaming devision afloat.

Sony also have alot of assets which they may make money through, they have Sony Pictures, Sony BMG, SCEE, SCEA, SCEJ which include companies that will be making alot of money e.g. Naughty Dog, Ready at Dawn and Media Molecule, all of these companies will be funded or given assistance to by Sony when they make games, but when they sell games, Sony take some of the profit.

I dont think Sony would be giving away so much stuff for free if they were in financial turmoil, just today they announced that they would be giving away free comics up until December the 12th on PSP.



iBlah said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
iBlah said:
Sony charges the publishers, I think its $0.1 per gig downloaded?? I'm more concerned about what happens when PSN userbase grows so big that publishers can no longer afford to publish on PSN, especially free stuff like demos.

they stopped charging that fees a few months ago

o, I didn't know that.

Only for PSPmini's.. the rest is still being charged: http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/24/sony-cuts-bandwidth-fees-publisher-penalties-from-psp-minis-ser/



 

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LordChris915 said:
NJ5 said:
Garnett said:
NJ5 said:
Garnett said:

Heres the thing,With XBL you pay $50 every year, with the SLIM you pay the extra $100 up front for online.

Maybe from the gamer perspective, but not from Sony's as the PS3 is surely more expensive to build than the 360.

 

Surely Blu Ray doesnt cost that much more to build.

Not that much more, but still more. There's also the wireless and the more expensive CPU.

 

Sony make alot of money, such as the money Sony will make from Software sales, Downloads (Including the money they make on home), the money they make on Qore, the money they make on PSP and PS2 sales which sell for profit, the money they make on PSP and PS2 software & Downloads, they money they make on merch (not much but still something), the money that comes down from Sony HQ, TV sales, Video Cameras, Sony Erricson, Walkman. If they can afford to be sponsor for the Football League, then they can afford to keep their gaming devision afloat.

Sony also have alot of assets which they may make money through, they have Sony Pictures, Sony BMG, SCEE, SCEA, SCEJ which include companies that will be making alot of money e.g. Naughty Dog, Ready at Dawn and Media Molecule, all of these companies will be funded or given assistance to by Sony when they make games, but when they sell games, Sony take some of the profit.

I dont think Sony would be giving away so much stuff for free if they were in financial turmoil, just today they announced that they would be giving away free comics up until December the 12th on PSP.

I agree with some of the stuff you said, but that has little to do with what we were discussing.

 



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Keeping up servers and bandwidth are not that much costy. And I do think that games publishers are paying for every game specific server.

For example Steam is free to use and making money on games sales.

They should spend a lot of money on developing new services like Home expansion. Still I believe it is profitable.



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