outlawauron said: jarrod said: outlawauron said: jarrod said: outlawauron said: Carl2291 said: I never even knew half of them existed ¬_¬ But even so, VC will outsell a number of them, so all is fine by me As for my turn... No comment I don't believe there are ten more, but games like Final Fantasy Tactics were big budget titles. Nothing like the main Final Fantasy games, but it still had a lengthy development time. The first one only, yeah.  For the time (meaning in context or in relation to the costs of other games of the day) it's probably comparable to Valkyria (ie: mid tier budget territory).  In absolute sales it's nowhere close, but if we're adjusting for that, shouldn't we also adjust for the larger size of the games market today in the sales figures too? What's the point in this comparison if the PS1 userbase if 3x the PS3 userbase? Edited:  lol, that came out harsher than I intended.  I'll just say I don't much point in adjusted comparisons period. I agree with you. That's why I asked what's the point.

The point was trying to keep comparisons (ie: market size then vs now, budget size then vs now) consistent.

yeah i know, my friends love it... but is it as good as final fantasy? :o

Valkyria Chronicles has the highest sales for a non-Final Fantasy srpg in the Americas I believe (of course I could be wrong). It doesn't surprise me when you consider that the PS3 doesn't have many traditional jrpgs. They have Eternal Sonata and Enchanted Arms. Cross-Edge I don't know too much about it. It might be a SRPG. But either way I hear it's not good. Demon's Souls and Folklore are ARPGs. Disgaea 3 is a SRPG and has less polish/production values than Valkyria Chronicles. So what competition does Valkyria Chronicles really have on the PS3 at the present time? SO4 International, WKC (I think. It's real-time but it has a party system and you have adventuring right? So that's a traditional jrpg as opposed to a ARPG) FFXIII, Resonance of Fate, and those NIS and Gust games are all upcoming releases. Chances are if you have a PS3 right now and you have a jrpg itch, you probably will buy Valkyria Chronicles. It's a SRPG, not a jrpg but if there isn't much in the way of traditional jrpgs to play on the PS3, you'd think that you might as well right? It's that simple. in Americas, practically all the traditional jrpgs at this point are on 360, Wii, DS and PSP. So this holiday season, especially post-299 slim hype (VC sales spiked up after the slim), Valkyria Chronicles is going to be popular with jrpg fans. Unless they ask for christmas money instead to buy the jrpgs getting released in February and March.

Now The Last Remnant, apparently that game sucks. I played the PC version demo a little bit and just didn't care to learn the nuances of the battle system. I just feel like there is better stuff out there to play on both 360 and PC.

The sequel will sell less than 200k though :-/
pirate riddled psp, lol.

VC had very little promotion in Japan, and the anime came after the launch.

jarrod deeply believes, for reasons I can't explain, that Valkyria Chronicles had a huge amount of advertisement. I feel you are quite suited to make a comment on the advertisement though. I'd love to the conversation.

Maybe it wasn't good flamebait because it wasn't flamebait at all. I know, non-flamebait not being flamebait. Who would have thought?

But if anything this just goes back to my original point. People keep trashing TLR, but at the same time they're angry that it's not on PS3. This is the exact same response Infinite Undiscovery got. When WKC outsold it in Japan, most discussion devolved to this:

"Look Square! These are the type of sales you could have had, but you don't! HUR HUR HUR....!"

"But Infinite Undiscovery is a Microsoft IP, Square Enix only published it at the request of Microsoft. They couldn't put it on the PS3 even if they wanted to."

"LALALALALALALALA NOT LISTENING TO YOU!!"

For a Japanese STRATEGY RPG those sales are amazing. 

TV cms, in-store promos, an anime (coinciding with the BEST version) a good 2 years of coverage in Famitsu (1 year after release even, basically unheard of for a non FF/DQ/MH game) tell me Sega didn't skimp on this.  It's not FFXIII or MH3 or anything, but it's gotten a far, far bigger promotion than any SRPG I can think of.  Got a bigger ad blitz than any Sega game last year too bar the Yakuza games.

Why do people think it got little promotion actually?

For a Japanese STRATEGY RPG those production values are amazing.