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SOLIDSNAKE08 on 19 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
mario will probably sell more than final fantasy but the ps3 is gonna sell more than wii in december, anyway what with you and the wii? wii this, wii that, how many wii owners are actually gamers? probably not much, most of them are casuals, women, old people etc..

Doubtful that PS3 will sell more, as Wii hisotrically ramps up a lot in the holidays, look at last year for example, and NSMB is coming so it'll help push Wii sales.

I like the Wii, its the only console with games that appeal to me, and goes well with my PC and DS


i really dont see how it wont sell more with final fantasy releasing.



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SOLIDSNAKE08 on 19 November 2009
hsrob said:
OurGunzNeverTire said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
OurGunzNeverTire said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Netyaroze said:
We just have to wait and we will see what happens its all speculation. There is no evidence that you have to be the leader to survive 10years or more. Maybe just Sony Consoles can live 10 years maybe it has nothing to do with the leadership. Maybe 60-70 Million Consoles are enough. We had never a case in the past which was even similar to the case today. We have 3 Consoles and the strongest Console didnt even have half of the market. The weakes competitor has more potential sales power then the leader in the 16 bit gen. We just have to wait and we will see.


BTW: PS3>WII Japan again

Well PS3 reaching 60 million is no sure thing, as its trailing the PSP in sales, and the PSP has been on the market for about five years and still hasn't reached 60 million.

Also part of the problem of not being the market leader that results in why consoles don't survive, is because Consoles that aren't the market leader don't see support after the next gen is released, PS3 sees software support because third parties spread across the 360 and PS3, with multiplats, like Modern Warfare 2, once the next gen starts, the PS3 won't see the support of those games, unless the 360 also survives.

 

I actually metioned that PS3 would likely lead Wii until late november or early december, once NSMB Wii launches, that will change, fast, not to mention, FF13 will sell less than 2 million in Japan, so PS3 won't have as big a Holiday Boost as Wii will have

WOW............. your joking right.......... were would that support go hmmmm PC? Becasue it damn sure aint going to nintendo, nintendo wii is the only game console in HISTORY to be market share leader and have next to no 3rd party support. Last gen, you were a fool to not have your game on ps2, and the same for the ps1, and super nintendo, and nes, but not to put great games on wii...... is perfectly ok. If the 360 was to vanish next gen all that would happen is all the 3rd party support it saw would go to PS, and all its support form its commmunity would go to PS. You can't truly think a real gamer would op for a nintendo console over sony console if nintendo and sony were all to choose from, and they had to choose 1.

It'll go to the next gen consoles, not the PS3, PS4 and 720 likely, but not the PS3

again...... your joking right. by that time the ps3 will be killer in sales and to be honest i highly doubt the next gen playstation will come out before the 10 years are up.... developers are just starting to get a taste to the ps3 tech, and how far they can push it. Sooner or later ps3 will become the lead platform for major multiplatform games (for M$ sake that better not never happen) but i'm pretty sure it will, once the ps3 close the gap and show it's worth to developes they will have to learn the tech and when they do, we will start to see  multiplat titles at the same quality of sony's exclusives .......now (sony's exclusives by that time will be god like) and that will only increase the life time. I think this current generation of consoles (ps360) have put themselvs in a position to go on for a really long time with out needing an upgrade.

the only one that WILL upgrade in the short time to come is nintendo wii....... that is if they wan't to finally be apart of this generation in gaming. but they really don't have to, wii fit and sports are doing just fine, it's up to nintendo if they want to become a game company again

If the next generation Playstation doesn't come out until 2016 I will eat my Wii.


you obviously dont know what sony mean by 10 year life cycle do you? giving the ps3 a 10 year life cycle doesnt mean they cant release thier next console and support them both at the same time, like they have always done.



OurGunzNeverTire on 19 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
OurGunzNeverTire said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
OurGunzNeverTire said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Netyaroze said:

again...... your joking right. by that time the ps3 will be killer in sales and to be honest i highly doubt the next gen playstation will come out before the 10 years are up.... developers are just starting to get a taste to the ps3 tech, and how far they can push it. Sooner or later ps3 will become the lead platform for major multiplatform games (for M$ sake that better not never happen) but i'm pretty sure it will, once the ps3 close the gap and show it's worth to developes they will have to learn the tech and when they do, we will start to see  multiplat titles at the same quality of sony's exclusives .......now (sony's exclusives by that time will be god like) and that will only increase the life time. I think this current generation of consoles (ps360) have put themselvs in a position to go on for a really long time with out needing an upgrade.

the only one that WILL upgrade in the short time to come is nintendo wii....... that is if they wan't to finally be apart of this generation in gaming. but they really don't have to, wii fit and sports are doing just fine, it's up to nintendo if they want to become a game company again

ROFL, a killer in sales, you mean third place still?

no new Playstation for 10 years, lol, so they would let MS, get a huge lead on them in the next gen?  You really bought into the 10 year plan PR BS didn't you

Nintendo actually is the top gaming company, just look at sales and customers.

well see now your talking about the 360 and there you have compitition, they directly influence each other in the industry,so mabey.....

 

yeah they are because they are competing with themsel'ves...... does that count, hmmmmm guess so?

 



Avinash_Tyagi on 19 November 2009
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
mario will probably sell more than final fantasy but the ps3 is gonna sell more than wii in december, anyway what with you and the wii? wii this, wii that, how many wii owners are actually gamers? probably not much, most of them are casuals, women, old people etc..

Doubtful that PS3 will sell more, as Wii hisotrically ramps up a lot in the holidays, look at last year for example, and NSMB is coming so it'll help push Wii sales.

I like the Wii, its the only console with games that appeal to me, and goes well with my PC and DS


i really dont see how it wont sell more with final fantasy releasing.

First off FF13 is frontloaded, so it'll give the PS3 only a one week spike, secondly every tracker is predicting less than 2 million lifetime sales, so it;s not going to be a huge seller.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

OurGunzNeverTire on 19 November 2009

woah woah waoh......... what are we talking about here. my bad op ummmm

GO SONY!!!! ^^



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Avinash_Tyagi on 19 November 2009
OurGunzNeverTire said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
OurGunzNeverTire said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
OurGunzNeverTire said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Netyaroze said:

again...... your joking right. by that time the ps3 will be killer in sales and to be honest i highly doubt the next gen playstation will come out before the 10 years are up.... developers are just starting to get a taste to the ps3 tech, and how far they can push it. Sooner or later ps3 will become the lead platform for major multiplatform games (for M$ sake that better not never happen) but i'm pretty sure it will, once the ps3 close the gap and show it's worth to developes they will have to learn the tech and when they do, we will start to see  multiplat titles at the same quality of sony's exclusives .......now (sony's exclusives by that time will be god like) and that will only increase the life time. I think this current generation of consoles (ps360) have put themselvs in a position to go on for a really long time with out needing an upgrade.

the only one that WILL upgrade in the short time to come is nintendo wii....... that is if they wan't to finally be apart of this generation in gaming. but they really don't have to, wii fit and sports are doing just fine, it's up to nintendo if they want to become a game company again

ROFL, a killer in sales, you mean third place still?

no new Playstation for 10 years, lol, so they would let MS, get a huge lead on them in the next gen?  You really bought into the 10 year plan PR BS didn't you

Nintendo actually is the top gaming company, just look at sales and customers.

well see now your talking about the 360 and there you have compitition, they directly influence each other in the industry,so mabey.....

 

yeah they are because they are competing with themselve's...... does that count, hmmmmm guess so?

 

Why wouldn't the 360 figure into the situation whether I mention it or not?  Of course the 360 is there, and if MS replaces it, you really think Sony will just stick with the PS3 only?  You think companies will continue to support the PS3, no, they'll either support the Wii with its larger base or go to the next gen, the PS3 base on its own is too small for third parties, which is why many third party games are multiplats across bot the PS3 and 360.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

hsrob on 19 November 2009
OurGunzNeverTire said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
mario will probably sell more than final fantasy but the ps3 is gonna sell more than wii in december, anyway what with you and the wii? wii this, wii that, how many wii owners are actually gamers? probably not much, most of them are casuals, women, old people etc..

that's my main point I don't think this guy is getting, out of my household of 5 there is 1 ps3, used to be 1 360, and 3 wii's, and out of my household of 5 i'm the only gamer, my mom and little sisters could careless. but they love wii fit, wii sports, etc. What makes the wii successful has nothing in common of what made ps2 or ps1 successful, 2 totally different markets. The only reason wii is mentioned in gaming now is the nintendo infront of it.....

I don't know if that tired old cliche flies where you guys are from but there are a hell of alot of Wii gamers on this site.  Gamers being people that actually play games, not just systems.

@Solidsnake08: I'm perfectly aware of what Sony's 10 year plan is supposed to mean, i was referring to the comment by Ourgunznevertire (spelling?) who said, "i highly doubt the next gen playstation will come out before the 10 years are up", hence why I said I'd eat my Wii if we didn't see a Playstation 4 before 2016.




Netyaroze on 19 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
@ Netyaroze, PS1 is way higher than PS3

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS3&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS&reg3=Japan&weeks=156

 

 

NO ITS NOT !

 

 

 

What are you talking ? You try to make it seem Japan is the World but its not infact PS3 is WAY higher then PS1 Dont you believe ?

 

 

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS&reg3=All&weeks=216

 

Your numbers are just JAPAN and not the World if you look the real Data you would see that PS3 is between PS2 and PS1 that means it would even end up higher probably 115 Mio. So what do you say now ??? After YOUR logic the PS3 would easily reach 60 Mio.

 

Ok they can only provide Japan



Avinash_Tyagi on 19 November 2009

^maybe you missed this disclaimer at the bottom

Note: Only certain data for certain consoles currently exists on the database. For "America" and "Others" data currently only goes back to the PS2 launch so sales for systems such as N64, PS, DC, SNES will only include Japanese data at this time.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Attoyou on 19 November 2009

Congrats to the PS3 , it deserves it !



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