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NJ5 said:
papflesje said:
NJ5 said:
Why would the PS3 win the holidays in the US if it's selling 42% below 360's levels right now?

Yeah, thank god no walmart price cut and MW 2 bundles (this week) had anything to do with that...

Oh oops, I totally forgot about that.

In that case I guess the 360 will have to count on the fact that it's cheaper to attract parents buying presents for their kids. That could result in a bigger holiday boost for the 360 than for the PS3 (but it's not a given of course).

 

Outside of the obivious outliers such as the walmart deal and the MW2 bundle, the PS3 and X360 have been tied for basically 2 1/2 months in the US,  A cheaper 360 has shown to be a non factor to the PS3 in that time. 



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Train wreck said:
NJ5 said:
papflesje said:
NJ5 said:
Why would the PS3 win the holidays in the US if it's selling 42% below 360's levels right now?

Yeah, thank god no walmart price cut and MW 2 bundles (this week) had anything to do with that...

Oh oops, I totally forgot about that.

In that case I guess the 360 will have to count on the fact that it's cheaper to attract parents buying presents for their kids. That could result in a bigger holiday boost for the 360 than for the PS3 (but it's not a given of course).

 

Outside of the obivious outliers such as the walmart deal and the MW2 bundle, the PS3 and X360 have been tied for basically 2 1/2 months in the US,  A cheaper 360 has shown to be a non factor to the PS3 in that time. 

My point is that the demographics buying consoles change during the holidays, so price can become more (or less, but not likely) of an issue during that time.

 



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NJ5 said:
Train wreck said:
NJ5 said:
papflesje said:
NJ5 said:
Why would the PS3 win the holidays in the US if it's selling 42% below 360's levels right now?

Yeah, thank god no walmart price cut and MW 2 bundles (this week) had anything to do with that...

Oh oops, I totally forgot about that.

In that case I guess the 360 will have to count on the fact that it's cheaper to attract parents buying presents for their kids. That could result in a bigger holiday boost for the 360 than for the PS3 (but it's not a given of course).

 

Outside of the obivious outliers such as the walmart deal and the MW2 bundle, the PS3 and X360 have been tied for basically 2 1/2 months in the US,  A cheaper 360 has shown to be a non factor to the PS3 in that time. 

My point is that the demographics buying consoles change during the holidays, so price can become more (or less, but not likely) of an issue during that time.

 

Hmm, I would think that there would be more money available (or willingness to fork it over, seeing how you'd be getting more bang for your buck) than in non-holiday season tbh. Would seem odd the other way around. I'd think people would hoard their money during the year and be a little more lenient towards the end of the year.



papflesje said:

Hmm, I would think that there would be more money available (or willingness to fork it over, seeing how you'd be getting more bang for your buck) than in non-holiday season tbh. Would seem odd the other way around. I'd think people would hoard their money during the year and be a little more lenient towards the end of the year.

As I said, we're not talking about the same demographics during the holidays vs during the year. So it's not as easy as that.

 



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NJ5 said:
papflesje said:

Hmm, I would think that there would be more money available (or willingness to fork it over, seeing how you'd be getting more bang for your buck) than in non-holiday season tbh. Would seem odd the other way around. I'd think people would hoard their money during the year and be a little more lenient towards the end of the year.

As I said, we're not talking about the same demographics during the holidays vs during the year. So it's not as easy as that.

 

Do explain the difference then.

Imho, the ones who spend during the year are a different demographic to the ones saving for purchases during holiday periods. The latter has saved up quite a bit and will want value for their spending, looking more for the best deal, not per say the cheapest deal imho.



papflesje said:
NJ5 said:
papflesje said:

Hmm, I would think that there would be more money available (or willingness to fork it over, seeing how you'd be getting more bang for your buck) than in non-holiday season tbh. Would seem odd the other way around. I'd think people would hoard their money during the year and be a little more lenient towards the end of the year.

As I said, we're not talking about the same demographics during the holidays vs during the year. So it's not as easy as that.

 

Do explain the difference then.

Imho, the ones who spend during the year are a different demographic to the ones saving for purchases during holiday periods. The latter has saved up quite a bit and will want value for their spending, looking more for the best deal, not per say the cheapest deal imho.

People who buy consoles during the year are most likely buying them for themselves. People who buy them in the holidays are most likely giving a gift to someone else (in the case of consoles I suspect it's mostly parents giving to kids).

That's a pretty big difference in terms of demographics. The people who are buying a console for themselves are more likely to take into account lots of things other than price. Parents buying a console for their kids are IMO more likely to care about the price, as they're usually buying lots of gifts at the same time, and they don't know the other pros and cons of each console very well.

If you want an example of this effect in action, look at Nov-Dec 2008 sales compared to the two months before that for each console:

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 02nd Nov 2008 to 27th Dec 2008:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
8,496,086
2,894,437
4,577,371

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 31st Aug 2008 to 01st Nov 2008:

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
3,202,733
1,330,790
1,689,018

 

As you can see the Wii and 360 had a 170% boost in the holidays, while the PS3 had a 117% boost.

 



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HMm, weird, over here the holidays are the reason why more expensive things are purchased that otherwise get postponed or "not bought".



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SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
kowenicki said:
PS3 has to do better than last years dismal showing, 360 will likely do worse than last year...

but I still believe 360 will win US.... closer though.


why do people think the 360 is gonna beat the ps3 in america? i want a real answer, cause for the last 2 NPD's it hasnt, so why is it all of a sudden gonna go ahead of the ps3. then again you could be right, americans havnt been eating up the ps3 like europe and japan have since the price cut. either its still too expensive for them, or they are too stupid to recognize value!


Dude, does not matter how many times you say that people wont listen to you trust me on this one they will say because xbox games worth it but o well is their own way to see it