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Forums - Sales - Famitsu Estimates (November 2009)

Son1x on 17 November 2009
Acevil said:
Son1x said:
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Son1x said:
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darthdevidem01 said:
so according to them TOG, FF13, Phantasy Star 2 & EOE are essecntially bombs = very bad sales

Tales of Graces actually seem moderate. The main thing I noticed about Tales games for Nintendo consoles they seem to do better in the rest of the World.

No, those ToG numbers wouldn't be moderate. That would make it the worst selling main title.

There was only 1 Tales game on Nintendo system that made it outside Japan, and it only sold good because GC was RPG starved and Nintendo itself helped promote the game.

The last couple of mainline tales did around 250k-330k in Japan. I am not combining tales of vesperia together since I think that the ps3 version is almost good as new.

They were on DS. Tales of the Tempest, the first DS Tales (not a main game though) was very bad and that also affected the sales of the later 2 DS Tales.

And there is no reason why not to count both Vesperias, so Vesperia basically sold ~500k. 

I mean come on, Vesperia sold ~190k on Xbox360, the "hated" console in Japan. ToS:DotNW, a low-budged spin-off did 220k. It wasn't even made by Namco Tales Studio, or at least not by Team Symphonia (Symphonia, Abyss , Vesperia) and Team Destiny(Rebirth, Destiny, Destiny 2, Destiny: Director's Cut). And since we're at it, Team Destiny's games are more liked and sell more than Symphonia's. Graces is also their game, while Vesperia was Symphonia's.

I don't see Graces selling less than 350-400k LTD. (in Japan alone)

I hate sounding like another certain user on this site, but I think those numbers are just too high. I will buy this game and most likely love this game, but I don't see it possibly selling that high on one system alone in Japan.

I don't know who that certain user is but I don't care.

Well that's my guess (350-400k) and I'm not really from future so yea. Who knows, it might sell 100k in the end. We will just have to wait and see (and hope for good sales + localization). ^^

I also think FFXII will sell more, probably over 2m LTD.



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jarrod on 17 November 2009

Some comparisons with previous series/related Famitsu sales...


(Wii) New Super Mario Bros. : 1,03-1,29M / 2,50M or more
(Wii) Super Mario Galaxy : 256.341 / 964.414
(DS) New Super Mario Bros. : 865.024 / 5.535.730

(PS3) Final Fantasy XIII : 1,01-1,36M / 1,00-1,50M
(PS2) Final Fantasy XII : 1.840.397 / 2.322.541
(PS2) Final Fantasy X : 1.749.737 / 2.325.215

(DS) Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks : 320-430k / 720-880k
(DS) Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass : 288.282 / 902.386
(Wii) Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess : 145.068 / 554.109

(DS) Layton 4 : 300-400k / 540-690k
(DS) Layton 3 : 360.778 / 806.430
(DS) Layton 2 : 307.771 / 880.330
(DS) Layton 1 : 119.816 / 945.841

(PSP) Kingdom Hearts : 240-330k / 450-580k
(DS) Kingdom Hearts : 291.211 / 495.751
(PS2) Kingdom Hearts 2 : 916.569 / 1.129.196

(PSP) MS Gundam vs. Gundam Next Plus : 230-320k / 320-400k
(PSP) Gundam Vs Gundam : 240.594 / 415.104
(PSP) Gundam SEED Vs ZAFT Portable : 56.438 / 133.087
(PS2) Gundam SEED Vs ZAFT Plus : 328.019 / 509.693

(PSP) Phantasy Star Portable 2 : 200-260k / 270-350k
(DS) Phantasy Star 0 : 85.573 / 202.307
(PSP) Phantasy Star Portable : 349.455 / 636.973

(Wii) Tales of Graces : 200-260k / 230-290k
(PS3) Tales of Vesperia : 227.506 / 312.128
(DS) Tales of Hearts : 141.610 / 259.000
(Wii) Tales of Symphonia DOTW : 151.138 / 212.408

(DS) Power Pro Pocket 12 : 130-180k / 230-290k
(PSP) Power Pro Portable 4 : 107.907 / 213.000
(DS) Power Pro Pocket 11 : 54.189 / 254.954

(PSP) Winning Eleven 2010 : 110-160k / 180-230k
(PS3) Winning Eleven 2010 : 235.000 / 235.000
(PSP) Winning Eleven 2009 : 102.221 / 233.727

(DS) Fushigi no Dungeon 4 : 100-140k / 100-130k
(DS) Fushigi no Dungeon DS 2 : 47.429 / 85.790
(Wii) Fushigi no Dungeon 3 : 58.507 / 97.227

(PSP) Valkyria Chronicles 2 : 100-130k / 160-200k
(PS3) Valkyria Chronicles : 77.694 / 141.589

(???) End of Eternity : 100-140k / 110-140k
(360) Infinite Undiscovery : 86.708 / 113.195
(PS2) Radiata Stories : 190.473 / 293.413

(Wii) RE Darkside Chronicles : 100-130k / 180-230k
(Wii) RE Umbrella Chronicles : 104.960 / 273.791
(PS2) RE Gun Surivivor 4 : 16.847 / 40.622

(PS3) Call of Duty MW2 : 90-130k / 140-170k
(PS3) Call of Duty MW1 : 20.692 / 113.957
(PS3) Call of Duty 3 : 14.117 / 32.765



jarrod on 17 November 2009

Graces, Layton 4 and FFXIII all seem low imo. I've no idea on EOE, but I'd expect it to at least outdo IU (multiplatform, not an ARPG).



darthdevidem01 on 17 November 2009

@jarrod

can you tell me whats before the dash & whats after that

I'm confused with what your showing us



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Son1x on 17 November 2009

Thats first week (and shippment at not-yet-released games) and LTD.
edit: oh dash, those are only at predictions and I guess min-max? 


I don't know why VC is only at 140k, though. VGC has it at 220k



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jarrod on 17 November 2009
Son1x said:

I don't know why VC is only at 140k, though. VGC has it at 220k

Famitsu counts rereleases separately.  They have the BEST version around 60k.

It makes more sense for this comparison anyway, given they're not counting reissues in their estimates.

 

darthdevidem01 said:
@jarrod

can you tell me whats before the dash & whats after that

I'm confused with what your showing us

before is 1st week, after is life-to-date



Son1x on 17 November 2009
jarrod said:
Son1x said:

I don't know why VC is only at 140k, though. VGC has it at 220k

Famitsu counts rereleases separately.  They have the BEST version around 60k.

It makes more sense for this comparison anyway, given they're not counting reissues in their estimates.

Oh right, forgot VC also got the re-release.



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markers on 17 November 2009
ioi said:
It is first shipment and lifetime estimates.

FWIW, and we've said this before, 1-1.1m week one for FF XIII is looking about right judging by current preorder rates... and it will be massively frontloaded just like all big PS3 games in Japan so 1.5-1.6m lifetime (exclusing budget releases, international versions) also seems about right.

I usually agree with ya but I see FF XIII hitting 1.5m in its frontloaded sales. Then crawling towards 1.8-2m for lifetime (again excluding budget releases and international versions)



Edouble24 on 17 November 2009

Still underestimating good ol' Final Fantasy I see. It will easily beat these predictions.



Bladeforce on 18 November 2009

Final Fantasy is so past it gone are the glory days 1990 - 2002. It bores me now to hear about final fantasy it's become as niche as blu ray is to the masses



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