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mirgro on 16 November 2009
Sidious said:
MAFKKA said:
nightsurge said:
CommonMan said:
Seems like more and more people feel that they should get things for free. Especially if they feel the item doesn't live up to their arbitrary expectations.

Exactly.  And all they are going to do by pirating it, rather than just not buying it, is give developers more of an excuse to move development to consoles or implement even more DRM.

^ Well the 360 still have 220.000 pirated downloads. So at the moment, i'd say they give developers more of an excuse to move development to the PS3 rather than to "consoles", if your point would claim any value. But yes, i understand what you're saying. Piracy on PC is a problem according to developers.

Still, i think it's not only the Pirate's to blame. I think the platform where games are distributed also needs a look-over, much like the Movie and Music industries are working on. Now services like iTunes, Spotify and Voddler exsists, that delivers a great service where users actully feel its worth coughing up money.

I mean... take MW2 as an example. They go out with info that MW2 for PC is going to get matchmaking instead of dedicated servers. And the PC community feels that this will never work. Had IW released a PC demo, alot of PC gamers might've found out that they could still make it work, i.e they go out and buy the game on release day. But in this case IW drops a bomb, the community is in outrage, and IW just continue on with their everyday life, and later blames the PC community for having a piracy problem.


MW2 360 is well on its way to outselling the top selling PS3 game to date (and is outselling MW2 PS3) and you want to use it as an example of why developers would want to move game development to the PS3 and exclude the 360 and PC?  Please tell everyone you're joking before they start thinking you're a Sony drone living in a fantasy world.

Well, people with good reading comprehension wouldn't think he is a Sony drone at all.



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aragod on 16 November 2009
shinyuhadouken said:
these people should get life in jail and dick every day.

Now now, don't let your dreams hit you on the way out.



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Sidious on 16 November 2009
mirgro said:
Sidious said:
MAFKKA said:
nightsurge said:
CommonMan said:
Seems like more and more people feel that they should get things for free. Especially if they feel the item doesn't live up to their arbitrary expectations.

Exactly.  And all they are going to do by pirating it, rather than just not buying it, is give developers more of an excuse to move development to consoles or implement even more DRM.

^ Well the 360 still have 220.000 pirated downloads. So at the moment, i'd say they give developers more of an excuse to move development to the PS3 rather than to "consoles", if your point would claim any value. But yes, i understand what you're saying. Piracy on PC is a problem according to developers.

Still, i think it's not only the Pirate's to blame. I think the platform where games are distributed also needs a look-over, much like the Movie and Music industries are working on. Now services like iTunes, Spotify and Voddler exsists, that delivers a great service where users actully feel its worth coughing up money.

I mean... take MW2 as an example. They go out with info that MW2 for PC is going to get matchmaking instead of dedicated servers. And the PC community feels that this will never work. Had IW released a PC demo, alot of PC gamers might've found out that they could still make it work, i.e they go out and buy the game on release day. But in this case IW drops a bomb, the community is in outrage, and IW just continue on with their everyday life, and later blames the PC community for having a piracy problem.


MW2 360 is well on its way to outselling the top selling PS3 game to date (and is outselling MW2 PS3) and you want to use it as an example of why developers would want to move game development to the PS3 and exclude the 360 and PC?  Please tell everyone you're joking before they start thinking you're a Sony drone living in a fantasy world.

Well, people with good reading comprehension wouldn't think he is a Sony drone at all.


Try asking one of them.



waron on 16 November 2009
Alterego-X said:
waron said:
about the pc revenue figures - how much comes from mmo games? 50-60%?
revenue from games like NFS Shift, Prototype, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Street Fighter 4, Resident Evil 5, Mirror's Edge, Shaun White Snowboarding or Dead Space was abysmal at best.
only MMOs and niche games do good and good for niche games means 100-150k lifetime.

Wait... 

First,, you argue that PC gaming is smaller, because there is a single important genre, while console gaming has many smaller genres.

After that, you add that PC has tons of niche genres, as opposed to consoles having only a few mainstream games.

i'm talking about the fact that mainstream games don't have a chance to make any profit or brake even - most of them are released on pcs only because they were made on them in the first place before they were ported to consoles. i'm not talking about niche genres but niche games. 

probably 70-80% of the whole pc market is made of MMOs, The Sims, casual games, flash and website based games.

besides that the only thing we have right now on PCs are either classic rpgs, simulations or strategy games(i'm not talking here about rts but all kinds of management, 4X titles etc.). there are certain mainstream games that had a some kind of success on PCs like Modern Warfare or Left 4 Dead but mostly due to community(moders) and online.



max power on 16 November 2009

This thread is so full of misinformation, it's hilarious. Nobody's playing those pirated versions online, because Steam AND IWnet are in the way of that. Some people are playing the Single-player, and some will probably just go unplayed.

Either way, I doubt this will effect sales, as most people who would have bought the game do so for multi-player.

I think IW's decision to use Steam was a good one, it will limit how much money they lose to piracy by a significant amount. Their other decisions, however, were stupid and will hurt them financially.



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deathgod33 on 16 November 2009

PC gaming will be a faint memory in less than 2 years.



 

 

 

 

max power on 16 November 2009
deathgod33 said:
PC gaming will be a faint memory in less than 2 years.

sarcasm?



Alterego-X on 16 November 2009
waron said:
Alterego-X said:
waron said:
about the pc revenue figures - how much comes from mmo games? 50-60%?
revenue from games like NFS Shift, Prototype, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Street Fighter 4, Resident Evil 5, Mirror's Edge, Shaun White Snowboarding or Dead Space was abysmal at best.
only MMOs and niche games do good and good for niche games means 100-150k lifetime.

Wait... 

First,, you argue that PC gaming is smaller, because there is a single important genre, while console gaming has many smaller genres.

After that, you add that PC has tons of niche genres, as opposed to consoles having only a few mainstream games.

i'm talking about the fact that mainstream games don't have a chance to make any profit or brake even - most of them are released on pcs only because they were made on them in the first place before they were ported to consoles. i'm not talking about niche genres but niche games. 

probably 70-80% of the whole pc market is made of MMOs, The Sims, casual games, flash and website based games.

besides that the only thing we have right now on PCs are either classic rpgs, simulations or strategy games(i'm not talking here about rts but all kinds of management, 4X titles etc.). there are certain mainstream games that had a some kind of success on PCs like Modern Warfare or Left 4 Dead but mostly due to community(moders) and online.

You already listed probably more genres that are popular on a single console. 

About 80% of the popular x360 games are FPS TPS RPG, or sports games.

About 80% of the popular PC games are either MMO, RTS, Sim, Strategy, casual games, flash games (that alone is lots of genres), OR one of those "certain mainstream games".



Aion on 16 November 2009

Yeah well that's not surprising.



 

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Mummelmann on 16 November 2009
deathgod33 said:
PC gaming will be a faint memory in less than 2 years.

Yeah, I'm sure it will with The Sims and WoW and such being worthless to their respective developers.