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CaptDS9E said:
Same guys that said Dragon Age and Borderlands wouldn't sell well. So there ya have it

Who said Dragon Age wouldn't sell? And has it sold well or not then?



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Slimebeast said:
CaptDS9E said:
Same guys that said Dragon Age and Borderlands wouldn't sell well. So there ya have it

Who said Dragon Age wouldn't sell? And has it sold well or not then?

Pacter mentioned Borderlands, and the other guy everyone always brings up mentioned Dragon Age. Both have sold well



According to internal reports the game sold about 4.7 million in North America and UK.

7 Million might be a little too high. \

http://kotaku.com/5402968/modern-warfare-2-sells-nearly-five-million-copies-in-a-day



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psrock said:
According to internal reports the game sold about 4.7 million in North America and UK.

7 Million might be a little too high.

http://kotaku.com/5402968/modern-warfare-2-sells-nearly-five-million-copies-in-a-day

Well VGC's news article says 4.2m in America (not just North America) and 1.2m in UK, or 5.4m together, which is 15% above Activision's estimates. Not too bad.

 



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In that case, 10% above (5.2 vs 4.7).

I suppose you meant NA + UK, not NA + Europe.

 



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Chart-Track defends MW2 sales numbers

Chart-Track director Dorian Bloch has told GamesIndustry.biz that UK retailers "have been at the forefront of data capture for decades," and that he's confident that yesterday's 1.23 million Modern Warfare 2 sales numbers are accurate.

He was responding to Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter, who cast doubts that the numbers were correct, suggesting Chart-Track had counted pre-orders before they had passed from retailer to consumer.

"UK retailers have been at the forefront of electronic data capture for decades, which in turn allows us to capture daily sales from 99 per cent of retailers on our panel," said Bloch. "That's over 6000 retail outlets plus all the etailers - currently 25 different store fronts."

Bloch detailed that pre-orders are only counted as they physically change hands on the High Street, or in the case of online sales – as they are shipped from warehouse to consumer.

"Every retailer on our panel supplies Electronic Point of Sale data. In the specific case of pre-orders through retailers with High Street stores, we can and do pick these up sometimes months before a product actually launches and these are set up by the retailer to report as a specific retailer code. When the product goes live we begin to track sales on the actual barcode for that product, along with the actual selling price for every single transaction."

"In the specific case of online retailers and pre-orders, the moment they ship a product it registers as a sale in the daily transaction files we are sent. Online retailers have to ship the product in advance in order to hit the street date, so we will pick up actual sales (shipped to the customer) prior to the day one release. These are re-dated to day one."

Bloch added that he expects Chart-Track will update the day one figures next week, at the same time ELSPA publishes full-week sales for the game.


http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/chart-track-defends-mw2-sales-numbers



ioi said:
koffieboon said:
ioi said:
Lol, well our data isn't extrapolated from ChartTrack and we got to 7 million as well so I'm not sure where Pachter is coming from on this one...

But I assume the amount of sources for it is still pretty limited (compared to normal weekly sales numbers), so the margin of error might still be pretty big as well?

Absolutely, and I pointed out that the 7 million figure should be considered +-10% but my point is that our Americas data comes from our normal sources (and ties in well with our preorder figures) and our data for major European countries such as UK, France, Germany is of course limited but still enough to extrapolate and get some reasonably accurate figures from.

My point was that our data was arrived at independently (and before anyone else) and also shows a figure of around 7 million as well.


Hum Patcher says "I say", you reply "our sources". Who are that sources ?



And at least 2 other analyst have predicted 7 million so far, so it might be just under, but very close nonetheless.



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

So they did use a computer, I mean how could pachter of know that.



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Why is it that every time that idiot opens his mouth, some other idiot quotes him?

Can't we just ignore him so he will go away?



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